[zanata-users] [Fedora] Plan Stage 0: Move to Zanata

Noriko Mizumoto noriko at fedoraproject.org
Tue Jul 22 03:48:51 UTC 2014


(2014年07月22日 00:16), Marcelo Barbosa wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>     I'm trying to organize my staff at translate.zanata.org
> <http://translate.zanata.org>, so that it is synchronized with what we
> have today in our wiki [1] and [2] TX, however the bug [3] opened today
> and the change in permissions today, prevent me from continuing this
> activity. If the teams are different for each environment please let me
> know, because I have received requests for new contributors in the
> translate.zanata.org <http://translate.zanata.org>.

Yes, the teams are different btw translate.zanata and fedora.zanata. And 
this is one of major reason to have separate instance.

'translate.zanata' instance is used by various projects including 
non-fedora projects. But Zanata has no Organization feature yet like 
Transifex (see the string 'organization/fedora/' in TX url [2]), and it 
allows only one team per language, aka one pt-BR team within the 
instance. So it is still possible that a translator exists who does not 
belong to Fedora L10n team but translate non-fedora project which s/he 
has interests. There is no way to control or group users to reflect the 
users structure in wiki [1].

Atm separate instance, fedora.zanata, is best option for us. So that it 
allows us to organize users structure which can be synchronized with our 
wiki team [1]. Additionally, this instance will be set FAS login only, 
therefore non-fedora translator (user with no FAS account) is unable to 
login.

noriko

>
> [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Brazilian_Portuguese_Team
> [2]:
> https://fedora.transifex.com/organization/fedora/team/17078/members/pt_BR/
> [3]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121655
>
> Best Regards,
>
> firemanxbr
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Marcelo Barbosa
> <firemanxbr at fedoraproject.org <mailto:firemanxbr at fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Patrick,
>
>         Thank you for feedback, I was not finding the path, with his
>     explanation was easy, I'll translate for our entire community Zanata
>     already see pt-BR.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     firemanxbr
>
>
>     On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Patrick Huang <pahuang at redhat.com
>     <mailto:pahuang at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Marcelo,
>
>         Can you access this page
>         https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/webtrans/Application.seam?project=zanata-server&iteration=master&localeId=pt-BR&locale=en
>         ?
>         I can't see any problem in turns of your permission or project
>         settings that will prevent you from accessing it. Are you having
>         problem finding your way there?
>
>         To access or translate that project in pt-BR, first go to the
>         project "zanata-server", then click on version "master". There
>         are 87 languages listed under Languages tab. You can click on
>         the the pager at the bottom of the list to navigate to pt-BR or
>         you can type it in the search right under Language tab heading.
>         Once you see language pt-BR, click on it the right hand side
>         will display document list of this project version. Click on any
>         document (in this case just one) will open the translation
>         editor as above linked.
>
>         Let us know if you have any further problems.
>
>         Regards,
>
>         Patrick Huang
>
>         Senior Software Engineer
>         Engineering - Internationalisation
>         Red Hat
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>             *From: *"Marcelo Barbosa" <firemanxbr at fedoraproject.org
>             <mailto:firemanxbr at fedoraproject.org>>
>             *To: *"Noriko Mizumoto" <noriko at fedoraproject.org
>             <mailto:noriko at fedoraproject.org>>, "Fedora Infrastructure"
>             <infrastructure at lists.fedoraproject.org
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>             *Sent: *Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:50:04 AM
>             *Subject: *Re: [zanata-users] [Fedora] Plan Stage 0: Move to
>             Zanata
>
>
>             Hi,
>
>                 How can we translate the Zanata to pt-BR ? When entering
>             [1] we realized that we don't have access to pt-BR in the
>             Group "Zanata" and in the project "Zanata server" we need to
>             do some process?
>
>             [1]: https://translate.zanata.org/
>
>             Thanks,
>
>             firemanxbr
>
>
>             On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Noriko Mizumoto
>             <noriko at fedoraproject.org <mailto:noriko at fedoraproject.org>>
>             wrote:
>
>                 (This mail is cc'd to Infra and websites teams as this
>                 activity may
>                 impact Infra and websites teams.)
>
>                 Hi all translators,
>
>                 With all suggestions/ideas/info posted by all of you, I
>                 had first meetup
>                 with zanata team to draft a plan to start with. I like
>                 to share the news
>                 I got from zanata team here. I will update the plan page
>                 with the
>                 following information later tomorrow. The move will
>                 occur in parallel as
>                 suggested. The communication channels with zanata team
>                 are zanata-users
>                 ML [1] and #zanata channel on freenode. Due to the limited
>                 capacity/resource of zanata team, posting to ML would be
>                 appreciated
>                 than pinging on irc.
>                 I thank you so much to Zanata team!
>
>                 Stage 0 - Establish Test Instance on Openshift
>                 Available at: localized-zanatatest.itos.redhat.com
>                 <http://localized-zanatatest.itos.redhat.com>
>                 Period: 4 weeks
>                 * This is trial run. Log in with FAS account and create
>                 new zanata
>                 account, and play. It is important to be loud and file a
>                 bug for any
>                 request [1]. Please make sure to append "[Fedora]" at
>                 the beginning of
>                 the subject. This will give a bug priority ;p
>                 E.g. [Fedora] Organization feature is needed.
>
>                 Stage 1 - Establish fedora.zanata.org
>                 <http://fedora.zanata.org> (FAS only instance)
>                 Available at: TBA
>                 Period: n/a
>                 * This will contain only essential items, no history is
>                 imported. First
>                 every language coordinator needs to create new account
>                 and become your
>                 team coordinator. And then the coordinators will help
>                 and approve other
>                 translators to join. Note, there is no auto or
>                 transparent migration.
>
>                 Stage 2 - Import history and Add features requested
>                 Available at: TBA
>                 Period: n/a
>                 * History (such as reviewed marks, notification,
>                 translator credit per
>                 msg) and any additional feature requested (and approved)
>                 will be
>                 migrated. It is essential to evaluate and decide what
>                 level of history
>                 to be imported (or may be given up).
>
>                 [1]:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Zanata
>
>                 cheers
>
>                 noriko
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