How to translate plural forms in zanata online editor?

[Alex Eng]

Just for your information, the plural forms used in Zanata:

http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/localization-guide/en/latest/l10n/pluralforms.html?id=l10n/pluralforms


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On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:56 AM, Alick Zhao <alick9188 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I reported it to gnome-abrt upstream with a comment on a relevant issue:
>
> https://github.com/abrt/gnome-abrt/issues/112
>
> However, it seems to me what they have done with `ngettext` is
> correct. Here in this case, we do not need to worry the number is 0
> since it will not happen:
>
> https://github.com/abrt/gnome-abrt/pull/118/files
>
> The real problem I face is I cannot find how to translate these
> strings with singular/plural forms on zanata's online editor. Is it
> only possible with offline po editor?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Ding Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Ding Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Jérôme Fenal <jfenal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > 2015-10-24 18:32 GMT+02:00 Alick Zhao <alick9188 at gmail.com>:
> >> >> >> Howdy,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have not looked close at fedora.zanata.org lately, and it
> seems now
> >> >> >> zanata shows strings with singular/plural forms in *one* textbox
> in
> >> >> >> its online editor, as in screenshot [1]. I am wondering what is
> the
> >> >> >> right way to translate them? I tried to search through the zanata
> >> >> >> docs, but cannot find it. Hope someone can point out for me.
> Thanks!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [1] http://susepaste.org/83191113
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi Alick,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You'd need to actually check in the source if the mix of singular
> and
> >> >> > plural form are handled.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Zanata does present the two alternatives when the code for the
> >> >> > translated messages does handle it.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, I do see the two alternatives with two radio buttons. My
> question
> >> >> is: How to translate both two strings in one entry box? Should I
> first
> >> >> translate the first one, then press the second radio button, and then
> >> >> translate the second one? The warning messages appear when I tried to
> >> >> do these, so I am not quite sure what is the right thing to do...
> >> >
> >> > If you translates string from the language with plural (e.g. English)
> >> > to the language without plural (e.g. Chinese).
> >> >
> >> > Normally you only need to translate the singular (the first) string.
> >> > The radio buttons there are merely for copy from source string.
> >>
> >> Well, I guess Chinese do have singular/plural differences in a sense.
> >> For example,
> >>
> >> Last week --> 上周
> >>
> >> {0:d} weeks ago --> （数字）周前
> >
> > Please warn the gnome-abrt upstream the way they handle plural will
> break the languages where
> > the first form is not one. [1]
> >
> > For example, French's "singular" form includes 0 and 1 (while in
> English, 0 is plural).
> > So if function outputs 0, the French equivalent of "Last Week" will be
> used, which may be wrong.
> >
> > And as for Chinese, the thing you translated become
> > msgstr[0] "上周\n"
> > "\n"
> > "{0:d} 周前"
> >
> > a three-lined string no matter what function returned.
> >
> > If the function returns 1, user will see:
> > 上周
> >
> > 1 周前
> >
> > If the function return 3, user will see:
> > 上周
> >
> > 3 周前
> >
> >
> > If the upstream does not fix it in time, I suggest you go with
> >
> > {0:d} weeks ago --> {0:d} 周前
> >
> >
> > Reference:
> > 1.
> http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/latest/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html
> >
> >>
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> >> Alick
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