usable window manager for FC3?

James Ralston qralston+ml.redhat-fedora at
Wed Dec 22 05:33:58 UTC 2004

I see that in terms of window managers, FC3 dropped sawfish and added

Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, this means that from my point of
view, FC3 does not have a usable window manager.

As far as I'm concerned, a usable window manager must support the
following capabilities:

    1.  GNOME-aware.

    2.  The ability to bind events to keyboard/mouse combinations,
        such as binding "Raise Window" to "Meta+MouseButton1".

    3.  The ability to disable "raise on click" behavior.

    4.  The ability to disable "raise on focus" behavior.

The last time I checked, metacity failed #3, and Havoc refuses to add
capability #2:

xfwm4 appears to fail capability #2.

twm and mwm fail capability #1.

If my assessment above is wrong, I would appreciate corrections, as I
would greatly prefer to use one of the window managers that comes with

Otherwise, if my assessment is correct: what are those of you who also
demand the above capabilities using?  Sawfish from CVS?  Something


James Ralston, Information Technology
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA

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