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[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

It would appear that on May 3, David Collantes did say:

> On 5/3/2004 10:20 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> 
> > Actually if {read that *_IF_*} CR systems are smart enough to not let
> > their luser customers dump on mailing lists by mistake by automatically
> > detecting mailing lists and simply NOT send any challenges to it. so
> > that the luser has to personally whitelist it if he/she wants to get the 
> > list's messages then I'd actually *LIKE* them. But as long as they need
> > their user to be smart enough to properly configure them to prevent this,
> > then I think that "crap" was an appropriate description...
> 
> TMDA[1] has some intelligence built-in[2] that will prevent challenges being 
> send to a mailing list, if the mailing list software adheres to certain 
> specifications.
> 
> [1] http://www.tmda.net/
> [2] http://shurl.us/b0/
> 
> Cheers,


OK, then, I'll admit that if a CR system actually conforms to the basic
design of what http://www.tmda.net/ describes as being TMDA, AND
implements the "NOREPLY" action triggers listed in http://shurl.us/b0/
including not allowing the user to configure it out then it probably is
NOT crap.  But in the past few months I've seen a few "CR" service's that
didn't appear to conform to it. I suppose there is no way to actually force
all CR service providers to conform to proper TMDA? <sigh> 

In any case, given that fedora-list headers include several of those
"NOREPLY" action triggers, I feel that any list contributor who makes
sure that only the list address appears in the To:, Cc: & Bcc: header
lines of the original sending *should* not receive a challenge. And if
they do, then someone is either using a poorly designed or broken CR
system. And the only way it's the luser's fault is based on his/her
having signed up for a bogus service...

I'd like to thank you for the good info on what TMDA is supposed to be.


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