White Box /RHEL 3 on a Mac?
linux r
linuxr at gmail.com
Thu Nov 4 16:45:23 UTC 2004
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:07:10 +0000, Rui Miguel Seabra <rms at 1407.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 12:06 -0500, Scot L. Harris wrote:
> > I admit I have not used OS X but have been considering an Apple laptop
> > the next time I get one. I think you are being unfair calling it a toy
> > BSD-based os.
>
> Get a *BSD os and compare first, please :)
>
> > Can't get much more free than Apache and sendmail. :) If you are
> > talking about the OS I think you purchase that along with the hardware.
> > So it is a sunk cost. I don't think Apple sells systems without their
> > operating system. But I could be wrong about that.
>
> Yes I'm talking about the whole. It's just the same problem as when
> buying a "pc" laptop, it almost always comes with Windows and you get to
> pay for it even if you don't want it.
>
> > > > Instead of using expensive equipment (G4 or G5) you might consider using
> > > > some cheap Intel or AMD based box. You can get good boxes for 300 to
> > > > 400 dollars that will be more than sufficient to handle a small site
> > > > with low volume traffic.
> > >
> > > This might be a good option...
> >
> > If you are hung up on using "free" software I think that would be the
> > best option.
>
> No one is "hung up" os using Free Software...
>
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
>
> ... since that's not a limitation but a choice. And a much better one
> than choosing to be a subject to "owners" of socially harmfull software,
> like proprietary software.
>
> Rui
>
> ps: living in a Free House, where even non geeks like my girlfriend and
> occasional guests use Free Software (namely the latest release of Fedora
> Core) without any problem.
>
>
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Hey guys,
Thanks for all the detailed info. It's really great. This happens to
be a school, and for all I know, I will get the hardware ONLY and thus
not OS X or whatever, but I am not sure. Not a big deal. I agree,
Mac OS is mighty cool, with the BSD kernel and all of that.
The main thing is to get it up and running fast/stable/secure, so (in
this project) I am not really wanting to learn a new distro, package
manager, etc etc. I am a Red Hat guy mainly, and I don't have 20
years of UNIX and C programming experience (unfortunately for me).
Although generally I love learning new things of course, which is why
I am on this list ...
I think I am gonna do my damndest to lobby for i386 and save myself
architectural headaches. If there is no i386 hardware available, I
will get it running on the ppc based on some of the links and advice
posted here. I may give Yellow Dog a try, if it is reasonably easy to
install it should do the trick for us.
Cheers
Marc
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