Migrating from Mandrake to Fedora (RFC Ignorant)

Robert Slade fedora at bathnetworks.com
Thu Apr 14 19:58:07 UTC 2005


On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 20:39, David Hoffman wrote:
> On 4/14/05, Robin Lynn Frank <rlfrank at paradigm-omega.com> wrote:
> > We are considering shifting our boxes from Mandrake to Fedora.  I was
> > wondering if anyone here has done so, and what they found they preferred
> > in Fedora to Mandrake.
> 
> 
> Robin,
> 
> Your mail server is bouncing replies. I think your filtering might be
> just a little too tight. The only reason given was that gmail doesn't
> support "abuse at domain" mail? And for that you are going to
> automatically block mail from any of us that want to reply to you?
> 
> I know you are careful about spam. I remember you from another mailing
> list concerning spam. But to bounce all mail from gmail.com?
> 
> =========================================================
> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
> 
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> 
>     rlfrank at paradigm-omega.com
> 
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 10): 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
> Sender address [dhoffman2004 at gmail.com] blocked using
> abuse.rfc-ignorant.org; Not supporting abuse at domain
> ==========================================================

The use of the rfc-ignorant.org blocking list is a very strange thing to
do. For example it listed the co.uk TLD because UK law (not just a
request for comments etc) made it illegal to publish names and addresses
without permission. In other words rfc-ignorant considered that Law does
not apply, and you could undertake illegal activity such as spamming
(which is illegal in the UK and most of Europe) provided you complied
with the rfc. In addition, most major Euopean ISPs do not have an
abuse at domain either but prefer to use web based systems so the Op will
not accept mail from them. 

Just some of my thoughts.

Rob




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