Problem booting after Yum update of FC4

Mike McCarty mike.mccarty at sbcglobal.net
Thu Dec 8 16:37:41 UTC 2005


Tim wrote:
> someone suggested:
> 
>>>Try "ping google.com" for several hours, and see how many packets you
>>>drop.
> 
> 
> Tim:
> 
>>>I hope you don't mean continuously.  That would constitute abuse.
> 
> 
> James Wilkinson:
> 
>>That's a fairly harsh definition of abuse you've got.

It fits mine. It's not an attack, but it is an abuse. Having
a ping test for 30 sec or so probably wouldn't bother anyone,
but running it "for several hours" would sure fit my definition
of "abuse".


>>
>>They've made the ping service available in the same way as they make the
>>HTTP service available. Accessing Google's web pages once a second would
>>not be OTT for a suitably busy site.
> 
> 
> What makes you think that Google has provided you with a ping responder?

Exactly, right on the mark, correct.


[snip continuous pinging sometimes necessary]

> Fair enough, but do such things with the consent of the equipment
> owners.  If you're testing your equipment, do so against someone that
> doesn't mind it.

Yep. Or buy your own.

This guy sounds like "it doesn't matter that I broke into the
car repair shop and used the tools there, because I put them
all back when I was through with them."

I suggest this: do you have a router? Try pinging that. I use
a router between my DSL modem and my machine. It responds to
pings. So does my DSL modem, for that matter.

$ ping dslmodem
PING dslmodem (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from dslmodem (192.168.0.1): icmp_seq=0 ttl=63 time=2.60 ms
64 bytes from dslmodem (192.168.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=1.26 ms
64 bytes from dslmodem (192.168.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=1.19 ms

--- dslmodem ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.194/1.689/2.606/0.649 ms, pipe 2

$ ping router
PING router (172.17.100.199) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from router (172.17.100.199): icmp_seq=0 ttl=127 time=0.562 ms
64 bytes from router (172.17.100.199): icmp_seq=1 ttl=127 time=0.579 ms
64 bytes from router (172.17.100.199): icmp_seq=2 ttl=127 time=0.569 ms
64 bytes from router (172.17.100.199): icmp_seq=3 ttl=127 time=0.570 ms
64 bytes from router (172.17.100.199): icmp_seq=4 ttl=127 time=0.571 ms
64 bytes from router (172.17.100.199): icmp_seq=5 ttl=127 time=0.565 ms

--- router ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 4999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.562/0.569/0.579/0.020 ms, pipe 2


[snip]

Mike
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