Pentium-D Processors?

Todd Simi tsimi at speakeasy.net
Mon Dec 26 22:50:38 UTC 2005


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>    1. Dell GX520, Fedora 4: 1920x1200 on Dell 2405FP fails
>       (Jacques Beigbeder)
>    2. Opening multiple files in Gnome. (Sam Varshavchik)
>    3. Re: XFS file system (M Daniel R M)
>    4. Re: XFS file system (Zoltan Boszormenyi)
>    5. Re: Installing JAVA (Eric Tanguy)
>    6. /dev/null strangeness (akonstam at trinity.edu)
>    7. Removables devices in KDE 3.5 (Marcelo Magno T Sales)
>    8. Re: /dev/null strangeness (David Gomez)
>    9. Easiest Way To Get ULi Ethernet DriverWorking (Robert L. Cochran)
>   10. Re: Easiest Way To Get ULi Ethernet DriverWorking
>       (Sam Varshavchik)
>   11. Re: Pentium-D Processors? (Michael Hennebry)
>   12. FC4 up2date fatal RPM install error (David L)
>   13. Sony Clie Sync to Evolution (Lovell Mcilwain)
>   14. need dmraid install help on fc4 (Eric Wood)
>   15. FC4 Pine replacement? (Devon Harding)
>   16. Re: FC4 Pine replacement? (Bill Perkins)
>   17. Re: FC4 Pine replacement? (Devon Harding)
>   18. ATI driver experience (Neal Becker)
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I don't find how to get 1920x1200 resolution on
> > the following hardware with Fedora Core 4 up-to-date:
> > 	Dell GX 520
> > 	Intel Chipset 945G
> > 	screen Dell 24" : 2405FP, native resolution: 1920x1200
> > 
> > I fail to get 1920x1200 with Xorg...
> > I can only get 1600x1200.
> > 
> > Searching on the Web gives some hints but with no luck:
> > . 915resolution doesn't support 1920x1200;
> > . writing in xorg.conf:
> > 	Modeline "1920x1200" 193.16 1920 2048 2256 2592 1200 1201 1204 1242
> >   doesn't succeed
> > 
> > Any idea?
> > 
> > --
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > In FC3, my system-install-packages.desktop file reads:
> > 
> > Exec=/usr/bin/system-install-packages %F
> > 
> > According to freedesktop docs, "%F" expands to a multiple list of filenames. 
> > Therefore, if multiple desktop icons are clicked and opened, Gnome should 
> > start a single copy of the application, and pass the list of files on the 
> > command lines.
> > 
> > Yet, in FC3, clicking on multiple RPM files, and opening them, starts 
> > multiple instances of system-install-packages, one instance per file.  I 
> > haven't upgraded to FC4 yet, but if nautilus still does this in FC4, it 
> > needs to be bugzillaed and fixed.
> > 
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > El lun, 26-12-2005 a las 12:03 -0400, George N. White III escribió:
> > > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, don fisher wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I can determine that the XFS file system is supported. But it does not appear 
> > > > to be mainstream (e.g. no mkfs.xfs etc). Abut two years ago it was used for 
> > > > large (>4TB) and fast file systems.
> > > 
> > > And is still used for things like numerical simulations, rendering, and 
> > > remote sensing invlving terrabyte's of data where downtime is expensive 
> > > and thruput is important.  XFS tries to ensure that the filesystem is 
> > > always consistent, so rebooting a huge after a crash does not require 
> > > running fsck for days before the system can be used.
> > > 
> > > > What is the current status of XFS. Most all of the documentation I have been 
> > > > able to locate date from the last century.
> > > 
> > > Maybe you were looking at docs on RH systems. There is an active mailing 
> > > list.  SGI (who still support XFS as an open source project) has begun 
> > > using SUSE on their Itanium machines, so XFS is certainly being used by
> > > the people who really need it.
> > > 
> > > There can be problems with XFS, especially if you get into edgy 
> > > workloads/hardware configurations, on 32-bit Intel (depending on the 
> > > devices) with the 4-k stacks on RH.  Most people who really need XFS will 
> > > be using 64-bit processors.  Some people have been running XFS on 32-bit 
> > > hardware in FC[34] without problems, but I suspect they have been lucky 
> > > with the workloads and hardware.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > George N. White III  <aa056 at chebucto.ns.ca>
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm been following this thread with some interest, now just to
> > contribute a single fact more: end-user i80x86 32-bit system, 7 months
> > fc4 running, 7 months running xfs partitions, but only in the /mnt
> > branch, as huge, extended partitions; p2p and multimedia use, so file
> > sizes are, in general, of hundreds of MB minimum; No one problem there.
> > Great. Efficiency, in two words...
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > Florin Andrei írta:
> > 
> > >On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 10:57 -0700, don fisher wrote:
> > >  
> > >
> > >>I can determine that the XFS file system is supported. But it does not 
> > >>appear to be mainstream (e.g. no mkfs.xfs etc). Abut two years ago it 
> > >>was used for large (>4TB) and fast file systems.
> > >>
> > >>What is the current status of XFS. Most all of the documentation I 
> > >>have been able to locate date from the last century.
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >
> > >When you boot the Fedora installer, add "xfs" to the list of the
> > >parameters at the very first prompt. E.g. "linux text xfs" (or "linux
> > >xfs text", can't remember the correct order) for a text-based install
> > >that activates XFS.
> > >
> > >You can then create XFS partitions with the installer.
> > >The XFS utilities will be installed automatically.
> > >
> > >It is recommended to use XFS on partitions which contain very large
> > >files that are read/written at high speeds. E.g. video capture, MythTV,
> > >etc. XFS is the best performer in that case.
> > >
> > >I am using it all the time on my 200GB multimedia/MythTV partition with
> > >FC4 and works extremely well.
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > Well, I have installed FC3 that way (XFS on most partitions)
> > and now I regret it. All the time I have a power failure (very rare)
> > or a kernel crash, all the files that were opened O_RDWR contain only
> > zeroes after reboot. And most of the time the Oops points to the xfs driver.
> > :-(
> > 
> > Fortunately JOE and other editors close the backup file after saving.
> > But I had to reinstall several RPMs on such occasions because
> > prelink or ldconfig was running at the time of the crash.
> > I never had such a problem with EXT3 before.
> > I run kernel.org kernels and 2.6.15-rc4-git2 still gives me problems.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Zoltán Böszörményi
> > 
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > Le lundi 26 décembre 2005 à 01:45 -0800, Kenneth Porter a écrit :
> > > --On Friday, December 23, 2005 6:43 PM +1000 Michael Wright 
> > > <michael_wright at aapt.net.au> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Need help on how i can install java
> > > 
> > > <http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/JPackage_Java_for_FC4>
> > > 
> > > 
> > yes but the last available jdk package from sun is update 6 and the last
> > available rpm from jpackage is for update 5 ...
> > 
> > --
> > Eric Tanguy | Nantes, France 
> > <eric.tanguy at univ-nantes.fr>
> > Key : A4B8368F | Key Server : subkeys.pgp.net 
> > Fedora Core release 4 (Stentz) sur athlon kernel 2.6.14-1.1653_FC4
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > I have a FC4 system that every time it reboots the permissions on
> > /dev/null change from 0666 to 0660. This causes boot errors and the
> > system will not boot.
> > 
> > That seemed to me to be a udev error so I looked in:
> > /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules
> > and the mode of null seems correct.
> > 
> > Am I looking in the wrong place or what can I do to fix this problem?
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > After upgrading KDE to 3.5, I've been experiencing problems when using 
> > removable devices. When a CD or DVD is inserted or when a removable 
> > storage device is attached, a dialog appears asking what to do with 
> > the newly available media (nothing? play in kaffeine? open in 
> > konqueror? , etc.). I'm aware this is a new feature of KDE 3.5 (by 
> > the way, is this configurable?).
> > However, no matter what option I select in this dialog, I can't access 
> > the device in konqueror using the media:/ URL. The media appears 
> > there (or, if it's a CD/DVD, its label is shown), but I get an error 
> > message stating that the device is already mounted when I click it. 
> > The only way to access CDs, DVDs or removable storage devices in 
> > konqueror is by opening /media/device_name. Besides, I have to 
> > unmount removable storage devices using the command prompt, because 
> > the context menu of its icon at media:/ does not show the option to 
> > safely disconnect it. However, if I unplug the device, its icon 
> > disappears from media:/, as expected.
> > 
> > Any suggestions on what to do to get my removable devices correctly 
> > accessed in media:/ again?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Marcelo
> > 
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 11:20 -0600, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote:
> > > I have a FC4 system that every time it reboots the permissions on
> > > /dev/null change from 0666 to 0660. This causes boot errors and the
> > > system will not boot.
> > > 
> > > That seemed to me to be a udev error so I looked in:
> > > /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules
> > > and the mode of null seems correct.
> > > 
> > > Am I looking in the wrong place or what can I do to fix this problem?
> > 
> > 
> > Its probably pam related.
> > look under /etc/security, but I am not sure that's it
> > 
> > check console.perms
> > 
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > I have a chicken-and-egg problem. My new FC4 system has the 
> > 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4smp kernel which does not have the uli526x.ko driver needed 
> > to enable the motherboard's onboard ethernet. So I can't update the system 
> > via yum quite yet. I found the driver source needed on the ULI website, and 
> > I read the instructions for compiling new modules in the FC4 release notes.
> > 
> > The ULI doocumentation makes me think I need to specifically recompile the 
> > kernel to support ULi devices.
> > 
> > However, this module has been in the Fedora kernels since at least the 1637 
> > release. Can I just download a new kernel, install it with 'rpm -ivh', 
> > reboot and get my ethernet running. Then I can do a 'yum update' to 
> > download/update all the other things.
> > 
> > If this is correct, I'll need just the updated kernel and glibc packages, 
> > right? Those will satisfy all the dependencies for the moment?
> > 
> > Or would it be easier to compile the module alone and hope the ULI device 
> > requires no other kernel changes?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Bob Cochran 
> > 
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > Robert L. Cochran writes:
> > 
> > > However, this module has been in the Fedora kernels since at least the 1637 
> > > release. Can I just download a new kernel, install it with 'rpm -ivh', 
> > > reboot and get my ethernet running. Then I can do a 'yum update' to 
> > > download/update all the other things.
> > 
> > 'rpm -ivh' will check for any missing dependencies.  If it goes ahead and 
> > installs the kernel, you're all set.
> > 
> > > If this is correct, I'll need just the updated kernel and glibc packages, 
> > > right? Those will satisfy all the dependencies for the moment?
> > 
> > Correct.  If the new kernel requires a glibc update, install the glibc 
> > update with rpm -U, then the new kernel with rpm -i.
> > 
> > > Or would it be easier to compile the module alone and hope the ULI device 
> > > requires no other kernel changes?
> > 
> > Nope, this is much more complicated.
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Dec 2005, Peter Arremann wrote:
> > 
> > > Hmmm... you sure those are pentium-D ? The lowest pentium D that's sold is the
> > > D820 which runs at 2.8Ghz...
> > >
> > > Do you maybe have a Pentium 4 with HyperThreading technology?
> > 
> > I have a pentium 4 with hyperthreading.
> > I'm told that it doesn't always play with SMP and an LCD monitor.
> > In any case, I've not been able to make the combination work.
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > I just tried to run up2date on my FC4 system and got an error during 
> > installation:
> > 
> > There was a fatal RPM install error.  The message was:
> > There was a rpm unpack error installing the package: 
> > kde-i18n-Polish-3.5.0-0.1.fc4
> > 
> > I selected the only available option - "OK" and it exited up2date (it didn't 
> > just abort installing that one package).  So I tried to run up2date again 
> > and it found one new package to download (presumably one that was changed 
> > during the 2 hours I had been running the previous up2date).  It installed 
> > that new package, but didn't continue installing other downloaded packages 
> > where it left off.  Now I suspect I have a half updated system.  Some of the 
> > packages that were updated no longer work... for example thunderbird no 
> > longer works.  How do I recover from this?
> > 
> > Thanks...
> > 
> >                           David
> > 
> > 
> > PS - It seems like I get errors every few times I run up2date... every 6 
> > months or so they're bad enough that my install is no longer useful.  
> > Fortunately that's about how often new releases come out, so I usually just 
> > install the new release.  But I think it's about time I learn whatever magic 
> > is required to overcome up2date problems.  Do I just have bad up2date karma 
> > or is it as fragile as it seems to me?  My computer at work and my computer 
> > at home are both currently broken wrt up2date.  :(
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I am not sure if I posted this question before but I seem to not be
> > able to figure out how to get my sony clie to sync with evolution.
> > 
> > I was finally able to get my Sony Clie configured on my desktop
> > using the gnome palmosdevices software (Pilot Settings).  But when
> > it told me to hit the sync button on my device, I would hit it and
> > then the entire application would crash.
> > 
> > Error message I get is:
> > The Application "gpilotd" has quit unexpectedly.
> > You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.
> > Or you can restart the application right now.
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me what I can do to get this to sync or if it will
> > sync at all?  My settings are as follows:
> > 
> > Pilots Tab:
> > Name= Sony
> > ID: 500
> > Username=<my username>
> > 
> > Devices Tab:
> > Name=Cradle
> > Port=/dev/pilot
> > Speed=57600
> > Type=USB
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > I'm trying to build dmraid but this 'diet' stuff is giving me
> > indigestion.  I installed dietlibc-lib:
> > 
> > # rpm -qa |grep diet
> > dietlibc-0.29-2.fc4
> > dietlibc-lib-0.29-2.fc4
> > 
> > but still getting a build error:
> > 
> > # rpmbuild --rebuild dmraid-1.0.0.rc9-1.src.rpm 
> > .....
> > diet gcc -o dmraid dmraid.o commands.o toollib.o  -rdynamic -L../lib \
> >       -L/var/tmp/dmraid-1.0.0.rc9/lib -ldmraid -ldevmapper_dietc
> > -lselinux
> > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldevmapper_dietc
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > make[1]: *** [dmraid] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/dmraid/1.0.0.rc9/tools'
> > make: *** [tools] Error 2
> > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.81092 (%build)
> > 
> > 
> > RPM build errors:
> >     Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.81092 (%build)
> > 
> > so I'm lost...any help is appreciated.
> > -eric wood
> > 
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > Is there a replacement for Pine on FC4?  Alternatives?
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > Devon Harding wrote:
> > > Is there a replacement for Pine on FC4?  Alternatives?
> > > 
> > 
> > I use mutt; it's a little different, but most of the functionality that 
> > I need is there.
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > When I ran 'Yum install pine' I get: 
> > 
> > No Match for argument: pine
> > Nothing to do
> > 
> > On 12/26/05, Randy Vice <damocles at thenostromo.com> wrote:
> >         On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Devon Harding wrote:
> >         
> >         > Is there a replacement for Pine on FC4?  Alternatives?
> >         
> >         I'm staying with pine for FC4 and on.  I installed mine via
> >         YUM since
> >         Fedora dropped it.
> >         
> >         Randy
> >         
> >         --
> >         : damocles at TheNostromo.com : Bruce Morrow, a man before and
> >         after his time :
> >         : "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time
> >         with the blood  :
> >         : of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
> >         11-13-1787    "Let's roll." : 
> >         : Todd Beamer, American Patriot onboard United Airlines
> >         Flight 93 9-11-01  :
> >         :  damocles at thenostromo.com
> >         http://www.thenostromo.com/  :
> > 
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> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:49 -0500, fedora-list-request at redhat.com
> wrote:
> > I'm purchasing a new notebook.  It looks like ATI is about the only display
> > choice these days.  I see there are driver packages a livna, including
> > x86_64.
> > 
> > Anyone with recent experience with ATI on Linux?  Works reasonably well? 
> > Hotkey switching for external display and tv-out supported OK?  
> > 
> > 
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Hi,

I'm running a 3.0Ghz Pentium-D at 3.75Ghz with SMP and x86_64. Runs great except for 
needing noapic when booting. Otherwise the clocks runs lighting fast. Every thing else 
is working fine.  I'm using kernel 2.6.14-1.1653 that I compile myself to be more 
optimized and specific to my hardware.

Todd





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