IS FC3 stable?

[Pete]

Les Mikesell wrote:

>On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 16:31, Pete wrote:
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>>>But, I have to ask: if you want something that works with the
>>>default install, why are you using Cyrus instead of Dovecot?
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>>Les, I'm sorry, but the configuration involved requires more than adding 
>>users to sasl and cyradm.
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>Cyrus was developed in it's own world, nothing at all like current
>unix and was intentionally designed to have it's own management
>concepts, users, and adminstrators separate from those of the OS.
>That means you should expect to learn different configuration
>techniques for it than anything else and that it can't possibly
>work from a fresh install because it doesn't relate to anything
>you did during the Linux installation.  If you like that or you
>have enough users that the efficiency matters, Cyrus is a good
>choice. If you don't, there are other choices available for
>Linux.
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>>Also, does dovecot handle pop?
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>Yes, if you want it to, or you can run another pop program. 
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>>Have you guys 
>>seen the front-end for Samba, very nice and clean, although yes it has 
>>some things that aren't working also, but it's very easy to configure 
>>Samba, no editting files, no running make by hand, is it too much to 
>>expect that from Cyrus? 
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>You might note that the samba front end is really a separate program
>and there are other choices like webmin that you can use if you
>have a problem with a text editor.  Likewise there are an assortment
>of tools to help manage Cyrus if you look around:
>http://www.hurrikane.de/en/mx/mailadmin/overview.html
>looks promising, and it's not the only choice.
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>> I think not.  I suspect that if you're in the 
>>"industry", you'd know it doesn't matter how well the software works, if 
>>you can't configure it easily.
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>I've been in the industry since before GUI's were invented and I
>still can't figure out why people like to have most of their
>options hidden behind a dozen tabs with obscure names when a
>text editor with a search feature will let you find and change
>anything in seconds without having to wade through a dozen screen
>shots in a HOWTO to figure out how to get there.   
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>I do see a problem with most programs in that a syntax error or
>simple typo in a configuration file will often crash the program
>where a form-based entry system can make sure your choices are
>at least syntactically correct, so I don't completely disagree
>with what you are saying, but the mainstream programs already
>have a webmin module and/or independent administration utilities.
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I agree Cyrus is different, and not necessarily in a bad way.  But I 
would still like to see a bit more supporting doc's if it's included in 
the distro.  And I love vi, it's just not having to remember the options 
and configuration parameters to hundreds of programs that I don't like.  
Even a partial front-end is often all one needs to configure and 
implement a new package.  I also don't really mind editing files, if I 
know after I'm done it's all going to work.  Front-end's usually make 
that process a bit easier.  I remember the days of Xenix and Unix, and I 
don't long for the days when everything was done through vi.  It's 
called progress.  And as I often say to the Linux newcomers, I was into 
Linux before it was cool, lol, I just have better things to do than edit 
6 or 7 files.  And thanks for the pointer for Dovecot, that might fit my 
needs better.  I was distressed to see my pop3 server from RH9 was gone, 
and dovecot doesn't really say 'POP SERVER' to me, so I over-looked it.