Disk Druid - Fedora flame #1

[Jeff Vian]

On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 15:31 -0600, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 01:00:04PM -0500, William Hooper wrote:
> > 
> > Timothy Murphy said:
> > > Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Fdisk has never been removed. It has always been availible
> > >> for people who want more control over their partitioning than Disk Druid
> > >> provides.
> > >
> > > What you are saying is that there is a secret code known to experts
> > > for doing this.
> > 
> > Again, the "secret code" is the standard keystroke for changing virtual
> > terminals.
> > 
> > [snip]
> > > If you tell them
> > > that something is dangerous you should assume that they have heard you, and
> > > will either take care or else avoid that method altogether.
> > 
> > Unfortunately this isn't the case.  As a real-world example:
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-July/msg00574.html
> > 
> > > Incidentally, to the many people who have told me
> > > I should have used Ctr-Alt-F2 rather than Alt-F2,
> > > I actually explained at one point that I was installing in text mode,
> > > as the X that comes with Fedora does not run properly on my Sony
> > > Picturebook (C1VFK).
> > > But Alt-F2 did not work for me either.
> > 
> > WORKSFORME.  Perhaps your hardware has issues changing virtual terminals?
> > 
> Ok. if you are going from X to an alternate terminal you have to type 
> ALT- CTL- Fx . To back to X or another terminal then ALT - Fx is
> enough. F7 usually represents the X terminal. In a text install F1 and
> F2 will surfice. I just did this a week ago and I think F2 will take
> you out of the text install and F1 take you back to the install. At
> worst I have the F1 and F2 reversed. But that certainly works.
> -------------------------------------------


Exactly my point.  

It seems Gene and others would like fdisk as one of the options during
the install instead of *forcing* all those who have no clue about
getting to a shell (Shall we say newbies) to use only the one tool
someone has deemed safe (DD) or allowing it to autopartition.  Both of
which choose their own way of organizing the partitons, and it seems to
me that autopartitioning uses LVM (in addition to destroying existing
partitions), which may not be ideal for some.

What I do not understand is why choices are being removed from menus and
hidden.  I thought this was about freedom to choose, as well as making
it attractive and easy for new users.