Why I think FC3 sucks!

Pete Savage node50 at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 27 11:12:46 UTC 2005


I've found out many times that if you try to install/upgrade/run systems in 
a non standard manner, you can often come up against problems, while I have 
spent many an evening banging my head against a wall, I still have to think 
at the end of the day, the coders made it work a cetain way, I've tried to 
change it, so the blame falls on me ;p
Sorry just my 2 cents, I love fedora, and I have tried most distros, fedora 
is my personal favorite, runs fast, smoothly and has all the functions I 
need.
Pete

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>After getting so many reply from my last post, I finally understand why the 
>post aroused so much agitation.
>
>1. It seems for some people, 'FC3 sucks' is the same as '*Linux* sucks'. 
>But I am very sorry, I did not mean that. I just meant FC3 sucks or FC3 
>sucks because it is worse than FC1 based on my personal experience.
>
>2. Some young guys (mostly students) or even not-so-young guys (what the 
>hell who are they?) like the feel of calling somebody *troll*, and so they 
>seize every possible chance to show off their *skills* at name calling. 
>That's a dark side I already know about Linux communitiy. But, please note 
>I am not saying the *whole* Linux community is bad, I mean a small part of 
>it.
>
>Okay, let me elaborate why I think FC3 sucks or FC3 is worse than FC1. Note 
>that I did not have experience with FC2.
>
>1. Installation. Well, what can I say? It is not worse, but it not any 
>bettern than FC1. Components selection is still very difficult.
>
>2. FC3 could not start into X in Virtual PC. It spews out tons of error 
>messages complaining something that actually should not have caused its 
>failure. So I have to download a temporary patch from 
>http://vpc.visualwin.com/. See page 
>http://vpc.visualwin.com/Notes/FedoraCore.3.Final.html.
>
>3. After several times of kernel updating (at least 3), I finally can boot 
>into X from the so called official kernel provided by FC3.
>
>4. It is hopelessly slower than FC1! I could run FC1 with only 128mb memory 
>and don't feel much sluggishness. I now run FC3 with 164mb memory, but it 
>is visibly slower than FC1! Application startup time is almost unbearable.
>
>5. I am a newbie on Linux, but I already find a few bugs. For example, in 
>gnome-termial, if I set DEL to ASCII DEL in the profile settings, it 
>actualy acts like BACKSPACE. This bug may be specific only to gnome, but 
>since it's bundled with FC3, so I attribute the problem to FC3. It's quite 
>reasonable.
>
>6. I have not acurate data to prove this, but I feel the system boot up 
>time is longer than FC1.
>
>7. This is a minor problem - I only installed kernel+gnome, no KDE. Yet it 
>takes up more than 2gb space. What the hell? A normal Windows 2000 
>installation usually takes only 1.5gb even with all components selected. I 
>forgot how much was FC1, but FC3 apparently is not doing better or even 
>worse.
>
>8. I may think of others that attribute to this 'FC3 sucks' topic.
>
>Final words - I am not negating Linux. Actually I think Linux and Open 
>Source has a very good future. That's why I am catching the new waves here.
>
>Thanks.
>
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