Why I think FC3 sucks!

[Pasha]

Edward Yang wrote:

> Pasha wrote:
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>> Edward Yang wrote:
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>>> Pasha wrote:
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>>>>>>> 5. I am a newbie on Linux, but I already find a few bugs. For 
>>>>>>> example, in gnome-termial, if I set DEL to ASCII DEL in the 
>>>>>>> profile settings, it actualy acts like BACKSPACE. This bug may 
>>>>>>> be specific only to gnome, but since it's bundled with FC3, so I 
>>>>>>> attribute the problem to FC3. It's quite reasonable.
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>>>>>> Never had such problem with any version of linux i tried. Either 
>>>>>> stop tweaking options you don't understand or (again) it is an 
>>>>>> emulator that needs tweaking. BTW, in my terminal, backspace is 
>>>>>> configured to generate ASCII DEL, and del to escape sequence and 
>>>>>> I never changed this. So, you probably just configured del to be 
>>>>>> a backspace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you define the word 'bug' in software world? In my 
>>>>> dictionary, bug at least means one thing - it does not work as it 
>>>>> should to work. Your above comment is like saying - that DEL 
>>>>> option is the ears of a deaf, don't use it!
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>>>> Where is the bug here? You configure DEL to be BACKSPACE and 
>>>> complain that it generates BACKSPACE. Change your setting to 
>>>> default and it will work as you expect it to work. This option is 
>>>> probably for compatibility with some terminals, where DEL works as 
>>>> backspace. If you don't want it to act that way, don't configure it 
>>>> so.
>>>>
>>> Can you read???????????????? I said:
>>>
>>> if I set DEL to ASCII DEL
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>>
>> First, there is no need to shout.
>> Second, please turn off HTML when you post to this list. In 
>> Thunderbird composition window, select Options/Format/Plain Text.
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>> If you look more closely, you can see that ASCII DEL is also 
>> generated by backspace. For me this means, that if I set Del to the 
>> same setting as backspace, it will act the same way as backspace. 
>> Also, you may be surprised, but originally ASCII DEL (and delete key) 
>> acted as backspace. I don't remember where it was changed, probably 
>> in MS-DOS. Anyway, there are a lot of hints telling that you should 
>> not touch that setting at all. In any case this is not a bug.
>>
> Okay, I like posting in HTML, which is not forbid by law; it's only 
> the usual custom to post in plain text, I choose not to follow it. If 
> you can't read it, please ignore me.
>
> ASCII DEL = ASCII 7 and ASCII BS = 8.
>
> Do you mean 7 == 8?

7 is ASCII BEL not DEL. This character produces a bell sound when 
printed. ASCII DEL is 8 and is synonim of ASCII BS.

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