OS Future now that Fedora Legacy defunct

Wade Hampton wadehamptoniv at gmail.com
Sat Dec 23 18:12:56 UTC 2006


As I posted on a few other times, I did an update (hard disk images) from
FC5 to FC6 on my laptop (x86_64) and it took about 15 hours.  Two other
updates, again from HD images (X86_64  took  Updates need to be smoother if
the OS is not going to be supported for more than 6-9 months.

On 12/23/06, Jim Douglas <jdz99 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
> >Reply-To: Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca,For users of Fedora
> ><fedora-list at redhat.com>
> >To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> >Subject: Re: OS Future now that Fedora Legacy defunct
> >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:45:11 -0700
> >
> >On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 08:25 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:38:03AM -0800, Les wrote:
> > > > This will displace windows quite easily especially due to the
> hassels
> > > > of getting windows, the support costs, and the licensing fees and so
> > > > forth that cause windows to be one of the most hated OS's ever
> >produced.
> > >
> > > Advocatus Diaboli time.  I really don't think Fedora is a Windows-
> > > displacement option either at home or in business; and it's not any
> > > of the technical issues.  Simply put, neither home nor business users
> > > can deal with a six-month replacement cycle that obsoletes their base
> > > software in a year or so.
> > >
> > > We're not just talking about "there's something newer"; we're talking
> > > about "you stop getting updates and patches."  Fedora Legacy mitigated
> > > that; without legacy updates that at least offer the option of not
> >having
> > > to do forced updates every year, I think you're optimistic to see
> Fedora
> > > as a Windows-killer.
> > >
> > > I had no problems with my last upgrade--but that was one laptop.
> > > Look at the problems reported on the list with every new release
> > > of Fedora--and imagine you're in IT, and have to support maybe 4-5
> > > variants of workstations, not to mention servers (if you decide to try
> > > Fedora there); and not just one of each, but maybe dozens, hundreds,
> > > or even thousands.
> > >
> > > Or you're a home user, with one to several machines--but you're NOT
> > > a tech, just want the computer to balance the checkbook and browse
> > > the Internet, with one for your spouse and a kid's homework machine.
> > > Face it-- most such users get the OS with the computer, and throw out
> >the
> > > computer and OS when it's time to change.  Few home users who were
> stuck
> > > with Windows ME or Windows XP Home ever have upgraded (and they
> usually
> > > find-- especially the former--that the hardware can't hack the
> upgrade.)
> > > So if the OS isn't going to remain patched and stable for the 2-3
> years
> > > or more these people keep their machine, it ain't gonna fly.
> > >
> > > So Fedora isn't the Linux Windows Killer. And maybe that's not bad.
> > > It is a place for the avant-garde to test the edge; problems are
> >accepted
> > > as part of the process, and there is community support and individual
> > > efforts to resolve issues.
> > >
> > > $0.02, YMMV.
> > > --
> >
> >I would love Fedora to become a Windows Killer but that won't happen
> >with less than a years support for a distro.  I put FC4 on my machines
> >just over a year ago and now I am toast.
> >
> >Most of those around work here have just done a yum upgrade to FC6 with
> >no issues.  I am going to try it next week but expect issues as I have
> >many extra applications installed.  Hopefully most have been ported to
> >FC6 or the FC4 ones work.
> >
> >It would be nice if Fedora is going this route to change the upgrade
> >policy and work as an upgrade instead of suggesting a full install.
> >
> >Now I did read an article today that because of the changes, there is
> >going to be a team to look at how "rpm" can be made better.  Better
> >clean up or working with dependencies would be my first suggestion.
> >Again this is an issue for the SPEC writers from what I have learned to
> >make sure they put the correct info into the file.
> >
> >I would also like the Fedora team to not mangle the original programs so
> >much.  I would like to be able to download the official Fedora
> >application or the real official application without many changes.  I
> >look at OpenOffice as an example.
> >
> >Lets hope that the support for FC5 goes longer than a year.
> >
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>
> I think they also need to find a way to auto detect settings for
> applications that are already compiled/installed...and recompile them on
> the
> upgrade.
>
> ..apache, postfix etc..
>
> Jim
>
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