fc5: install everything?

[Karl Larsen]

Frank Samuelson wrote:
> Because you can never beat a dead horse enough...
>
> I'm going to chime in that the loss of the "Install Everything"
> button is a big loss for Fedora.
    I think the everything means ALL languges and a bunch of stuff I 
will never use. But I loaded the "Work Station" which in the old days 
meant you could compile a new kernel and did often. I discovered I had 
to yum the compiler stuff and it was ok but slow.

    So if I do it again I will choose to select my own. I can get all 
the things I use like the "joe editor" and maybe even get my gMFSK to 
work on FC5.

Karl

>   Everyone I know who installs Fedora
> or RedHat (which is really only about 4-5 people)
> uses the "Install Everything" button, because _no_one_
> gives a measly care about a few extra Gb of disk space, and
> nobody wants to spend time pecking around menus or hunting down
> software.  It is a big waste of time.
>
> No, I don't want to have to load and run another program that
> can get me some other interface which I have to figure out
> to install everything.  No I don't want to have to click every
> package group.  No, I don't care if my auto updater has to download more fixes.
> I just want to click the "Install Everything" button and,
> no, I don't care if it doesn't really install _everything_.
> Almost everything is fine.
>
> And conflicts really aren't the problem.  There are lots of
> packages now that aren't getting installed now that could be.
> I was surprised by all the "optional" packages that I had to
> select one at a time to get installed: old favorites like
> emacs(!), xmms, xfig, and great newer programs like k3b (which the
> fedora installation web page recommends for burning fedora CDs :).
>
> It is just not worth my time.  Next time it will be SUSE instead.
>
> -Frank
>
>
> p.s. Inkscape should be in the distribution.  It's the hot
> new thing.  Very nice.
>
>
> Eugen Leitl wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 12:27:56PM +1030, Tim wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Discussed to death here over the last few weeks.  But in summary,
>>> "everything" never really installed "everything", and if you actually
>>>       
>> The point it took to click one checkbox to install a shitload of packages.
>> User attention is a scarce resource.
>>
>> Hard drive space and bandwidth is effectively free. Time is not.
>>
>>     
>>> did "install" *everything* you'd have conflicts up to your earholes, not
>>>       
>> Is "conflicts up to your earlobes" supposed to be a feature?
>> Why can't conflicts be autoresolved? Why are there conflicts in the
>> first place?
>>
>>     
>>> to mention masses of updates to manage.
>>>       
>> If I asked for it, and bandwidth is no issue, I don't see why this
>> is a problem.
>>
>> Please stop rationalizing deficits being features. They're not.
>>  
>>
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