fc5: install everything?

Michael A. Peters mpeters at mac.com
Wed May 10 22:48:45 UTC 2006

On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 22:36 +0100, Dave Mitchell wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:42:39PM -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
> > Installing "everything" for the purposes described in this thread will
> > not have the same effect - you are going to have to have all of Extras
> > to get that effect, because a lot of what you get when you "install
> > everything" in older Fedora Core _is_ going bye bye out of Core anyway.
> I think most people who object to the removal of the 'Everything' option
> really just want a button who's action is to "install as much as is
> realistically possible that is contained on the installation media", as a
> shortcut to having to rummage around manually selecting lots of package
> groups.
> I for one have been very irritated by it's removal.

I can understand that.
What I would like to see (been meaning to work on it) is a stripped down
Fedora with only two options - standard desktop and desktop + devel -
where standard desktop includes a decent GNOME environment for the
novice user, and the development includes just what is needed to build
everything on the distro.

Thus - selecting devel gets everything. No customization, something that
is sane for a generic desktop install. You get what is on it, but it is
a much smaller download than the big Fedora.

Something like that would be especially well suited for OEM distributors
- the more that is in there, the more training an OEMs call center

I suspect some people choose "Install Everything" because they do not
have the knowledge to select what they really want. In such cases, they
probably should just select "GNOME workstation" and be done with it, but
a lot of new users don't know that that is probably their best option.

Of course - if I ever get around to doing it, OpenOffice will NOT be on
the disk - AbiWord and Gnumeric will be :p

One of the issues though with doing this (grrr) is the Fedora Trademark.
To do it - all the Fedora artwork legally has to be removed and
replaced. They patched the gnome login process to move the icons up so
that it would look good on the Fedora specific splash screen - replace
that splash with the default gnome splash, and the icons as gnome starts
are too high. So it would require removing that patch etc.

Ah well, I'm going off topic ...

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