Nvidia sucks, sucks, sucks !

[John Wendel]

Kim Lux wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:40 -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
>>> Yesterday I absentmindedly ran "yum update".  Stupid me, I didn't
>> watch
>>> it and apparently a new kernel got installed (2835).
>> Why is this NVIDIA's fault?
>>
> I was being facetious.  On computers with other video cards, updating to
> a new kernel is a trivial exercise ! 
> 
>> Take it up with the kernel developers. They're the ones who changed
>> config.h
>> to autoconf.h. 
> 
> Damn them, what were they thinking ?  Did this change occur with the
> very last kernel that fc6 released with or was it MAYBE present in a few
> kernels before that ?  Of course nvidia was totally on top of the
> situation, checking that their driver built with all the kernels
> released for fc6-test3, right ? WRONG !
> 
>> One might fault RH or FC for schlepping around config.h
>> for so long after it went away in the kernel sources. Doubtless, you
>> would have bitched about that, too, and tried to blame *that* on
>> NVIDIA
>> as well.
>>
> Well, when you are the SOLE supplier of the driver for a piece of
> hardware, I guess that people come to rely on you !
> 
> 
>>> So, then I decide that I am being silly trying to build the driver
>> in
>>> the first place as I've heard great things about livna and they have
>> a
>>> driver prebuilt.   So I do a "yum install nvidia" and "yum install
>>> module-nvidia" of course if fails.  I've got the wrong package name.
>> So
>>> I shut down Linux and boot XP and go searching on the web to find
>> that
>>> the package name is "kmod-nvidia".  BTW: I consider it a complete
>>> failure that I have to boot Windows to get my Linux box running !
>> Then the failure is yours because you don't know how to find
>> information
>> without using a GUI. How is this NVIDIA's problem? They don't package
>> the Livna drivers.
> 
> I also googled around to see if other people were building drivers for
> 2835 and if so, what success they were having.  Can you imagine if we
> had to do this for every piece of hardware on our PCs ?
> 
>>> BTW: google doesn't work with lynx, nor does surfing some helpful
>>> websites.
>> And why is this NIVIDIA's fault?
> 
> Because with ANY other driver, I wouldn't have been working from a
> command line !  My server has an ATI card in it.   I've never spent one
> second of time thinking about it.   It has never forced me to work from
> the command line !  
> 

You obviously haven't tried a current model ATI card. Before I gave 
mine away (I won't sell a piece of sh*t to someone), the drivers drove 
me crazy. They didn't work correctly in Linux or Windows.

Yes, the video driver situation is a mess.

Regards,

John