kwallet vs kmail, will somebody please shoot one of them?

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 19 November 2006 19:37, Craig White wrote:
>On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 18:50 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Sunday 19 November 2006 15:50, Craig White wrote:
>> >On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 20:42 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> >> On Sunday 19 November 2006 20:18, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday 19 November 2006 15:04, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> >> > >On Sunday 19 November 2006 19:58, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >> > >> >Yes, I'd get rid of the old ones, but do use kwalletmanager
>> >> > >> > to do it (from Control Center).
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Yes, but I don't have any old wallets laying around for it to
>> >> > >> delete.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> And it apparently cannot create one either.  Next suggestion
>> >> > >> coaches?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Permissions?  Look at ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet and its content.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Anne
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, ~ for me is /root, so
>> >> >
>> >> > [root at coyote config]# ls -l ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet
>> >> > total 8
>> >> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 60 Nov 17 09:13 kdewallet.kwl
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this supposed to be a text file?  It is not...
>> >>
>> >> No, it wouldn't be very secure if it was, would it? :-)
>> >>
>> >> You're confusing me, Gene.  Are you doing everything from a root
>> >> login, rather than as Gene with su when necessary?
>> >
>> >----
>> >yes, he is running GUI login and applications, etc. as root - despite
>> >admonitions.
>> >
>> >and he suggests that this works for him, except of course, when it
>> >doesn't work for him.

Still correct :-)  If it doesn't work for root, who then is it going to 
work for?  And when your train of thought isn't disturbed by having to 
sudo for everything you need to do, it really does seem like its the 
lessor of two evils to me.  It occurs to me that I should copy the .kde 
directory to /home/gene, chown -R gene:gene ./kde and see if I can 
function as gene.  What else would I need to do?

>> Absolutely correct.  I've just changed the firewall lashup though, see
>> my reply to Anne.  This thing is at least as good as bottled beer at
>> first impression.  You can now run router software very similar to
>> what the linksys WR54G series routers use, but since it isn't so
>> resource limited as it is in my old BEFSR41, its has another trainload
>> of bells and whistles one can setup. Like automatic upnp if I fire up
>> azureus, customized firewall rules based on iptables, all the ipv6
>> stuff when that comes in, yadda yadda.
>>
>> So, until I find out different, I still have a bulletproof firewall
>> between me & the net.  And the room is at least 200 watts cooler.
>
>----
>Interesting that each time we discuss the topic of you constantly
>running GUI as root, you bring on 2 paragraphs on an entirely unrelated
>subject as if you are determined to deflect the conversation.

Sorry, but it seems like a good time to mention the latest foible or toy 
I've found.

>Kubuntu like all flavors of Ubuntu, doesn't let you run as root and
>thus, root cannot run GUI.

Sure you can, I've done it on that box. All you have to do is make a root 
account.  When you do that, then the sudo passwd is your root pw, not 
your user pw.  But for what its doing, root can get in the way too So 
other than running synaptic or adept, I stay away from it on that box.

>We are in agreement that you can do as you please on your own machines.
>If you want to run GUI as root a Fedora system or any Red Hat EL system,
>it won't stop you from doing so and even knowing that constantly running
>as root defeats all of the safeguards incorporated into the design and
>operation of your Linux systems don't stop you, then by all means have
>at it.
>
>Craig

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