> I just deselect openoffice during isntalls for now, then once setup, I > install it *when* I am ready for it. > Gotcha - thanks. Here's one I can't seem to get working (well) with "free" java: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=NQA&product=NCR&overlay=11111111&loop=yes Truth be told, that's about the only applet on the web that I use regularly... Chris