whats with this love of kaffiene?
Guy Fraser
guy at incentre.net
Thu Apr 26 15:42:07 UTC 2007
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 17:45 +0930, Tim wrote:
> Tim:
> >> Sounds like they need to, also, employ someone who used to be a teacher.
> >> Someone who's used to the idea of having to train, as the main thing
> >> that they do.
>
> Gene Heskett:
> > On the face of it, that is a good idea. Till that old saw about
> > "those who can't do, teach" comes crawling up out of the back of my
> > mind, having had it quite amply demonstrated in my nearly 57 years of
> > chasing electrons for a living. The other corollary to that is that
> > those who can do, and then try to teach, have a hell of a time trying
> > to reduce the language to something that actually works for TV-101
> > classes.
>
> ;-) Generally, we had the opposite problem at college. Teachers who
> learnt electronics at college, then became teachers, were worse than
> those who worked in the industry, then became teachers. For one thing,
> they knew the difference between theory and practice.
>
> I could never get any lecturer to give a sane explanation of AM. They'd
> tell us that the carrier was a fixed amplitude. I'd argue that AM was
> modulating the carrier, therefor it has a varying one. I'd even
> demonstrate by cranking the pot up and down to give a 1 Hertz AM. None
> of them could give a reasonable explanation. Yes, they could give
> strange ones, but none that fitted the situation demonstrated.
>
It isn't that simple unless you are only learning the basics. If you
are learning theory and fundamentals it is far more complex. You did
not do a detailed analysis of the signal you generated to determine
the constituent parts of the resulting signal, so your demonstration
was in no way a proof.
> Yes, I know that you can put a 1 kHz signal on top of a 1 MHz one, and
> then filter one away from the other. Theoretically, that's fine. But
> it doesn't get around the fact that I had grabbed the pot and changed
> the carrier level. It sure didn't have a constant carrier level in my
> hands.
>
Apples and Oranges. The resulting signal is technically not the
carrier because you just modulated it. The resulting signal is
more complex than what you perceive, but in the most simplistic
terms it appears to be the carrier at varying levels.
Without learning the complex math and physics that constitute
a communication system you can not feasibly determine what
constituents are diminished to the point that they can be
ignored.
It is the same with software development and design, you can
leave out some subroutines or invocations of a subroutine
in some circumstances depending the actual conditions that
are used to trigger its use, but by not using it where it is
required will diminish the quality of the resulting program.
> --
> (This box runs FC6, my others run FC4 & FC5, in case that's
> important to the thread.)
>
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>
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