Java problem

Kam Leo kam.leo at
Sun Dec 30 03:06:37 UTC 2007

On Dec 29, 2007 2:48 PM, David Boles <dgboles at> wrote:
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> Kam Leo wrote:
> > On Dec 29, 2007 6:20 AM, David Boles <dgboles at> wrote:
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> >> Karl Larsen wrote:
> >>> Craig White wrote:
> >>>    It is interesting the hoops technical people jump through for
> >>> Political reasons. Java exists on a web page somewhere and it is
> >>> operating system independent. It is free to all users.
> >>>
> >>>    But the users need to know how to get it and mount it. If Fedora is
> >>> not going to use the real java in their distribution it is another
> >>> reason other versions of Linux are slowly being used by the public (I
> >>> have not seen any yet in my Wal-Mart).
> >>>
> >>>    In competition with Windows you do things that are not good from the
> >>> free software point of view. In my opinion we should change the
> >>> definition of free to include software available free but without source
> >>> code. In this group comes the driver for Nvidia hardware. I think what's
> >>> happening is a Political fix where someone is using the Nvidia software
> >>> which is NOT with a source code, and when a new kernel is ready they run
> >>> the Nvidia software and make the kernel driver(s), which are then put in
> >>> a rpm file and sent to users as a Update. It looks good but is it really
> >>> good?
> >>
> >> I just have to ask you Karl. What OS or Linux distribution natively
> >> includes Sun Java? What OS or Linux distribution natively includes the
> >> Nvidia drivers that you install?
> >>
> >
> > Expand your limited horizon. Try openSUSE 10.3.
> That was a fair question from me becasue i don't really know the answer.
> Here is some questions for you.
> Does "openSUSE 10.3" do what you want and need from Linux that Fedora
> does not? Or will not? Really?

Neither openSuSE nor Fedora are end-all products. Both distributions
make decent servers. However, neither is ready to replace Microsoft's
Windows OS and the applications for that OS. Some day perhaps; just
not today.

> So why are you still running Fedora? I would have switched in a heartbeat.

Fedora is fast paced and has fewer restraints on me with configuring a
system. I learn many things because of that pace.

Why do I have to exclusively run one variant of Linux? I have multiple
machines which are multi-booted.

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