how to jigdo download a fedora 8 re-spin in one easy step?

[Karl Larsen]

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Karl Larsen wrote:
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>> David Boles wrote:
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>>>>   i will (sort of) agree with you.  yes, finley's website
>>>> had/has piles of cool advice on how to do things.  my only beef
>>>> with it is that it is simply too verbose.  here's an example --
>>>> how to install yumex:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_5_installation_notes.html#Yumex
>>>>
>>>>   sure, that explanation is correct but, man, it's wordy.
>>>> what's wrong with just saying:  "as root, run
>>>>
>>>>   # yum -y install yumex"
>>>>
>>>>  seriously, how many times do you need to be told to open a
>>>> terminal and type "su"?  yes, i realize that's being annoyingly
>>>> picky, but why take 15 lines to say what can be said just as
>>>> accurately in two?
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>>> It's all part of the dumbing down that Linux is going through.
>>>
>>> The Infinite monkey theorem.  ;-)
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>>    I disagree. If you drive the documentation train Fedora will go
>> down in flames.
>>     
>
> you're right, karl ... and that's because i am the all-knowing and
> infinitely powerful rday, and i have the frightening ability to
> single-handedly destroy one of the world's most popular linux distros
> by writing documentation the way i prefer and publishing it on my wiki
> where people can choose to read it.  or not.  tremble before me!
> tremble, i say, puny humans!  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>
> um ... sorry, where was i?  oh, right.
>
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>> What you use as an example of poor instruction is the best I have
>> seen in a long time. He tells you what it is. He tells you how to
>> get it. He tells you where it is on your computer. Then he goes to
>> the next subject on the same page which is Java.
>>     
>
> except that mr. finley's section on java is a good example of what i
> think is the (admittedly nitpicky) drawback to his otherwise stellar
> online HOWTOs -- it's unnecessarily verbose and repetitive:
>
> http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_5_installation_notes.html#Java
>
> seriously, what's the advantage of constantly typing:
>
>   Type:
>
>     # command
>
>   Hit enter.
>
> over and over again?  sure, it's correct, but after a while, it gets
> kind of monotonous and annoying.  i mean, really, karl, how many
> people do you know who need to be told repeatedly to hit ENTER after
> typing in a command?
>
> oh, wait ... forget i asked that.
>
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>>    You power users are a small group. You just want the basics man!
>> There are a lot more people who are new users who will like the way
>> Finley did it. He went to Umbuto because you guys drove him there.
>>     
>
> i'm pretty sure you meant "umberto", but most of us probably
> translated that automatically, karl.
>
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>> But if you have your way there will be no more new users.
>>     
>
> nonsense, karl.  i promise to use my new superpowers only for good.
> happy now?
>
> rday
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> Robert P. J. Day
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> Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
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>   
    Not really rday. We are not all perfect like you. But if we try we 
do good work. How long did it take you to write your instructions for 
jigdo? I hope it about 30 minutes. Mine took 6 hours and it isn't right yet.


Karl


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