We need a new subject- bug fixes
tmz at pobox.com
Mon Mar 5 04:15:46 UTC 2007
Les Mikesell wrote:
> Todd Zullinger wrote:
>>Setting up sendmail to receive mail from the internet isn't meant
>>for normal human beings.
> You mean unlike trivial things like building a working kernel, or
> configuring ssh securely, or getting cups to print, or installing a
> DNS server?
No. I simply meant not for normal human beings because normal human
beings don't read any documentation nor do they have any competency to
configure network facing daemons on their systems.
> Those other things I mentioned are also trivial for the few dozen
> people that do them all the time. The rest of us don't have to deal
> with it because it works as distributed.
Just because there are easier ways to enable other services doesn't
mean that sendmail as shipped is broken. Sendmail is something of a
pain to configure because upstream sendmail is hard to configure.
If it were my choice, I'd prefer to see a much smaller and simpler MTA
shipped as default that would handle the meager needs of most Fedora
systems. That might also allow a sendmail package to be made which
accepted network connections by default.
> That wouldn't be necessary if the distribution supplied a way to
> activate a working configuration as it does for other services.
File a bug. Create a GUI config tool. Submit doc patches. There
are many ways that you could constructively help the situation. I
don't think I really disagree with you that much about this. What
gets me is that you repeatedly say Fedora ships a broken sendmail when
that is simply untrue. You just don't like the way it is configured
by Fedora. So do something about it.
 if there isn't one already filed. If there is, send it along so
others that agree can chime in and work on a solution.
Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX.
We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Size: 542 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20070304/3b478183/attachment-0002.bin
More information about the users