Where Fedora Went Wrong (nice conclusion)
tmz at pobox.com
Wed May 16 19:06:38 UTC 2007
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>>Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 15 May 2007, David Fletcher wrote:
>>>>I doubt whether fixing things like this will now be receiving much
>>>>priority with the F7 release being imminent, which is a shame.
>>>>IMHO there is nothing wrong with using a fast moving distribution
>>>>like Fedora, but when a version is getting towards the end of its
>>>>life it should be left alone in a fully working state that we can
>>>>continue to use until ready to upgrade.
>>It's a double edged sword. If something isn't updated for a soon to
>>be EOL'd version, some folks get mad and blame the developers for
>>neglecting it while it's still supported.
> I didn't write the above Todd
I know, that's why I left the full attribution on it. I was just
using one mail to reply to both points. :)
> but I'd think that (again given a 3 digit IQ) that security related
> fixes should be pushed in the last couple of months along with bug
> fixes that are serious (as in several people have reported it)
> stability problems. Eye candy that's not well tested is another
> horse that shouldn't even be given a show at the payoff window.
Agreed. The hard part is determining which updates are important and
which aren't. Any bug which affects my system is an important one to
me. But it might not be so to you, even less so if the fix for me
happens to have an undesired effect on your system.
> I think you might get more 'testing' if it wasn't for installing a
> rawhide item pulling in so much other stuff, with that breaking
> unrelated stuff, so those of us that want to do more with our boxes
> than serve as a test bed for rawhide generally steer clear of it
> because its an all or nothing repo.
I think Rahul probably replied to this already. But it's generally
not good to use rawhide with a released version. That's what
updates-testing is for. It needs to get more use (both by user and by
package maintainers). How to make it more useful is something that
the folks on the devel list have been talking about.
(And just to be clear, I'm not one of the people that's making that
happen. The few small packages and other contributions I've made to
the project are pretty damn minor. I'm just a user who's trying to
give a little bit back where I can.)
>>Not really. My IQ is at least a few points above 3 (I think) and
> Your slight rewording seriously changed the meaning, I was counting
> digits, and it takes 100+ to make 3.
So, like I said (and obviously proved), my IQ is just a few points
above 3. I hate to admit that I wasn't trying to reword your
sentence, I just misread it. I'm thick like that sometimes. :)
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