Can Java just shoot me?

Karl Larsen k5di at zianet.com
Wed Nov 21 19:10:50 UTC 2007


Knute Johnson wrote:
>> David Boles wrote:
>>     
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>>> Aaron Konstam wrote:
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>>>       
>>>> On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 22:14 -0500, David Boles wrote:
>>>> Tom Horsley wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:52:20 -0500
>>>>>>> David Boles <dgboles at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Duh? This took about 10 seconds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Start here. Follow the prompts. Either one goes to the same page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/29ktre
>>>>>>>> https://sdlc4e.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=60B8217CD6937C7D378EAE0D0B30D57A
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Yea, it takes about 10 seconds starting from that page, but how
>>>>>>> do you know how to find that page starting from java.sun.com?
>>>>>>> There are 15,000 potential paths to follow with no roadsigns :-).
>>>>>>> For that matter, how do I know I need a jre rather than a jdk
>>>>>>> (I've seen both tossed around on web pages about installing
>>>>>>> java).
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> Okay. Here ya go.
>>>>
>>>> You time *yourself*.
>>>>
>>>> Start here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sun.com/
>>>>
>>>> Look for 'Downloads' in the menu in the top of the menu. Hightlight
>>>> (mouse over)
>>>>
>>>> Look at the drop down window and 'see Java JE' (that is what you are
>>>> looking for right?) click
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> One has to be careful when you are implying that someone is saying
>>>>> something less than bright, There is no Java JE under the Download menu.
>>>>> It says Java SE. Which is ok, you are allowed to make a typo but one has
>>>>> to be more careful in this context.
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> See "Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 3" (means JRE version 6
>>>> update 3) Click)
>>>>
>>>> The Java SE Runtime Environment (JRE) allows end-users to run Java
>>>> applications"  (that is what you want?) click on download
>>>>
>>>> TaDa  The link I gave you first.
>>>>
>>>> How long?
>>>>
>>>> No one minds helping. But it helps you if you *try* before you *fail*
>>>> and ask for help.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> The JE was a typo on my account. SE stands for Standard Edition. What he
>>> is looking for is the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). Which is on the
>>> page that links from the menu. It was obvious that he had no clue about
>>> what he was doing  (later self confirmed) and that he did not want to do
>>> this (later self confirmed). It was the attitude that got me. The 'I
>>> can't do this. It's too hard. So it must be *their* fault' that got to
>>> me. I deal with people like that sometimes at work. Second time I fire them.
>>>
>>> Now reread the last sentence. It starts with "No one minds...
>>> - --
>>>
>>>
>>>   David
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>>    I had no problem finding the PAGE with the things to d/l. The 
>> problem is getting the dam stuff to WORK!! I followed the Install 
>> guidance which is hard to read, but I made the directory /usr/java/ 
>> which does not exist on F7, and I did the bash file from that directory 
>> which put another directory above /usr/java/jre1... which seems to have 
>> all the java stuff.
>>
>>    But Firefox can't find this even though it says it will check 
>> /usr/java/. Should I move everything from that jre1... directory to 
>> /usr/java/?
>>     
>
> If you use the JPackage RPM for the Java version you are installing 
> it solves a lot of these problems for you.  And the best part is you 
> can use the RPM version.  Also remember that the plugin won't work 
> without compat-libstdc++-33.
>
>   
    I just used the rpm made by me using the rpm.bin file first. It did 
this:

[root at localhost java]# ls
default  jre1.6.0_03  latest
[root at localhost java]#

The files are all in /usr/java/ like Firefox seems to want?



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