KDE confusion under F7

Harald Hoyer harald at redhat.com
Fri Oct 19 10:43:03 UTC 2007

John Summerfield wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Dean S. Messing <deanm <at> sharplabs.com> writes:
>>> How do I install the basic KDE packages for F7 that are minus all the
>>> stuff that Fedora does to make KDE look like Gnome?  Have these been
>>> folded into the distribution?
>> Yes, the packages have been merged, and Than Ngo (the KDE maintainer 
>> at Red Hat) and Rex Dieter (the kde-redhat project leader) are now 
>> working together on the official KDE packages for Fedora 7 and newer.
>> As for "all the stuff that Fedora does to make KDE look like Gnome", 
>> you've been related outdated and/or wrong information:
>> * The Red-Hat-specific code changes to make KDE work better with the 
>> rest of the distribution are something long past (with one exception: 
>> KDM in Fedora 7 is patched to support ConsoleKit; but you wouldn't 
>> want a KDE without that patch, it would mean hotplugging/inserting 
>> removable media would not be detected by KDE with the version of HAL 
>> in Fedora 7). KDE is supporting things like fontconfig out of the box 
>> now, so these are no longer Red-Hat-specific (and haven't been for 
>> years). And the goal of these patches was never to make KDE "look like 
>> GNOME", but to make it integrate properly into a modern distribution. 
>> There may have been bugs in some of those patches, but this doesn't 
>> mean Red Hat intentionally sabotaged KDE as has been frequently 
>> trolled at the time, they were just that: bugs. But that's completely 
>> irrelevant these days because these patches haven't been necessary nor 
>> included for years!
> Where were you when NULL came out?
> I installed it with KDE and Gnome, and found I had to look closely to 
> tell the difference.
> It was the immediate cause of my not upgrading past RHL 7.3, and a very 
> talented and all-round good gent, Bero, left RH over it. He was 
> responsible for KDE, he had his own website of extras for KDE (including 
> advocacy stuff),

 > it was he who added DVD burning to cdrecord

he just took warly's patches from http://people.mandriva.com/~warly/ renamed it dvdrtools and made a project page.

 > , and I think it was he who made the first rescue disks.

Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
Harald Hoyer
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