Fedora philosophy (was ATI video comes out of the closet)

[Richard England]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Les Mikesell wrote:
>   
>> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> All your arguments boil down to that Fedora is not the tool you want
>>> it to be. But Fedora is not meant to be that tool in the first
>>> place. So arguments that it isn't suitable for this or that function
>>> should first consider if it was intended to provide that function.
>>> If it was not, then why should it be expected to?
>>>       
>> If someone doesn't say it, perhaps no one will think such a thing is
>> desirable.
>>
>>     
> The problem is that you keep saying it, and the people here keep
> telling you that that is not what they want. You might have more
> luck starting with something like Centos. You have already been told
> about the repo's that will let you get more current applications for
> it. If they are not current enough, then you can always get the
> source RPM and update it to the current version. You could even
> maintain one of more packages that you want to use the latest
> version of.
>   
>>> You have been
>>> pointed to distributions that do provide what you want.
>>>       
>> No, none of them have what I've said I want, and what I believe a lot of
>> people would want.
>>
>>     
> As I said before, pick the one that comes closest to what you want,
> and create your own spinoff of it. Fedora is providing me with what
> I want. It looks like it is providing most of the people using it
> with what they want. What you are purposing would not meet what I
> want. From the response you are getting, it doesn't look like it
> would be what most of the users would want. So your chances of
> changing Fedora to what you want do not look so good. The again, my
> chances of getting you to accept that are probably about as good.
> But as you have been told before, you are not going to change Fedora
> to be what you want. It is working well for it intended audience,
> and the changes you want would interfere with that. You want
> something that is suited for a different audience.
>
> If what you want isn't out there, and you think it would appeal to a
> lot of people, then get together with them and start your own. But
> do not tell me that a distribution that is providing me with what I
> want has to change because it is not what you want. That is not the
> direction the people producing the distribution want to go. I do not
> think it is the direction most Fedora users want it to go either.
> Fedora is not primarily a server os. It is not primarily a desktop
> os. It is primarily a test bed. That is it intended purpose. It is
> fulfilling it purpose.
>
> If  Fedora is not providing you with what you want, you can always
> return it for a full refund. :)
>
> Mikkel
>   

Les,  Mikkel,

Can I humbly request that you to agree to disagree and perhaps let this 
list get back to addressing technical issues with Fedora?  Like or or 
hate it, Fedora is what it is.

You both add a lot to the technical issues addressed here but there 
seems to be no end to your current discussion.

~~R