Punch cards
Da Rock
rock_on_the_web at comcen.com.au
Tue Apr 8 02:15:57 UTC 2008
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 07 April 2008, Da Rock wrote:
> [...]
> >Ok, if I may go OT a little- what's your opinion of digital? Is it hard
> >to maintain, because its certainly appears worth it?
>
> The problems will be different problems because the only place it is analog is
> actually on the air. The transmitter linearity requirements will probably
> mean we run bigger stuff in relation to the actual power output just to have
> the headroom to maintain that linearity so its at least a correctable error.
>
> OTOH, we can run with less ERP, by a factor of around 10 (so they are telling
> us anyway) To compare, our current analog transmitter is making 26.7 kw at
> synch tip peak, which is derived from the average reading, often based on an
> actual heat measurement, and is multiplied by 1.68 when the transmitter is
> sitting in black without any setup and showing 16.xx kw on the power meters.
> That, multiplied by the gain of our antenna makes it equal to a 100 kw signal
> in terms of field strength.
>
> Now, we have been told we will have the same coverage in digital, with only a
> 10 kw *average* signal, one whose peaks are not over 6db above that 99.99% of
> the time. That translates, using the same hardware and math, to an average
> power output from the transmitter itself, of 2.76 kw, or an absolute peak
> somewhere in the 12kw area. I have 3 amplifiers on site now that can easily
> make that power level as one is rated at 35kw but may not have enough gain,
> and the other 2 are rated at 18kw and surely have sufficient gain when driven
> with the 200 watt average power starter transmitter we already have on the
> air on channel 6, but which will be retuned to channel 5 next February.
>
> Our biggest problem ATM is that by staying in the low vhf band due to our
> proximity to the Green Bank Observatory, we are a very small minority of two,
> and we cannot find a vendor to construct the required channel 5 mask filter
> for us. Inquiries are out to several makers of UHF sized such devices, so
> the math to calculate what it takes is at least moderately well known by now.
>
> Heck, I'm not allergic to making it, my chopsaw cuts transmission line to
> whatever lengths I'd need quite handily, IF I can somehow become privy to the
> required math functions. Right now, it seems to me that it is being treated
> as proprietary info by most. We're obviously going to be held hostage unless
> we can get a waiver from the commission until such time as the conversion is
> largely done, and the coppersmiths suddenly find they have bodies standing
> around doing nothing. That unforch, may put us in a bind till then.
>
> More than you asked, and less, but its what I know ATM. Stay tuned as they
> say.
>
Sure, I'm happy with all the info I can get- always room to learn more I
say.
> >Also what is the difference in equipment for digital?
>
> Whole new ballgame in the house. A converter box will get a signal to your
> existing analog tv, with a good clean pix but no sharper that you are getting
> now. New receivers will of course get you a pix as sharp as we are
> broadcasting, and some have chosen to effectively run more stations at the
> old sharpness because we can stuff 4 of those pictures into the same
> bandwidth. But I think the public will smarten up, and demand the better
> picture once all the dust is beginning to settle.
>
Are you talking about the diff between SD and HD here?
> The Nextel re-arrangement of our studio-transmitter linkage facilities in the
> 7GHZ band will also effect this, and despite all the commissions grand plans,
> and the public pronouncements to us by Nextel, the reality is that they are
> dragging their feet, leaving quite deep trenches in the land from their heels
> because its turning into a project of about 10x the cost of their estimates.
> We can't get an answer from them either as to when it will be done in our
> market if ever, and its about a $100k question for us. If we have to do it
> because of this conversion deadline, and then do it twice when the band
> re-assignment actually takes effect, Nextel is gonna need a whole army of
> lawyers I'd guess.
>
> Sometimes I wonder why I didn't just learn to dig ditches or something, but it
> has been an interesting ride so far. :)
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
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>
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