Samsung printer woes

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Da Rock wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 19:18 +0930, Tim wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 18:39 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
>>> Right now I'm going to have rant:
>>>
>>> I'm seriously pissed off at this SELinux. As near as I can see it does
>>> bugger all, but when it stuffs up or gets in the way it does a right
>>> royal job of it!
>>>
>>> Now that thats out of the way, I installed the drivers and software
>>> nicely supplied by Samsung (unified linux drivers for mfp) which can
>>> only be installed by root. Root can't print- and is stopped by
>>> SELinux, and users can't print because the cups setup is root.
>>> Shouldn't this be simpler? Any thoughts on what I can do here? 
>> Well, I don't have a Samsung printer, but I can say that printing does
>> work with other printers.  SELinux stopping something from working
>> points the finger squarely at that thing (those particular drivers) for
>> doing something that they shouldn't be doing.  Whether that be design
>> flaw, or a fault with how you've tried to install them.
>>
>> You haven't posted the error messages from SELinux.  You haven't said
>> precisely what drivers you've installed, nor where from.  Nor how you
>> installed them.
>>
>> SELinux has had its faults, but it's generally software doing things it
>> shouldn't that is the real problem.  Do you really want software that
>> does stupid things, or software that's written properly?
>>
>> Given that bad software becomes a real showstopper with SELinux is does
>> force the software to get fixed up, more than other influences.
>>
>> i.e. In the past, disgruntled users might report that software works in
>> a bad manner, and programmers may ignore it because the software does
>> still work.  Now it's the software works properly or it doesn't work,
>> and they're faced with having to fix it.  Telling victims to turn off
>> their protective software gets the drubbing it deserves.
> 
> Ok, (we're going off the point a little here) so you're about tell a
> manufacturer who is willing to cooperate with OSS and provide drivers to
> shove it where the sun don't shine because of a system which for all
> purposes that I can see here does squat?

If you think SELinux is pointless then turn it off and unleash a virus 
on your system.
I thought so...


> 
> We want manufacturers to cooperate to get people away from the shit made
> by M$ which causes us a lot of grief by being zombified and attacking
> linux systems, choking networks and systems, etc. Making life difficult
> for them is not a good thing...
> 
Letting them get away with propagating the same crap on Linux isn't 
going to benefit Linux in the long run. Don't be so short sighted.

Max