network vs NetworkManger services ??

[William Case]

On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 17:03 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 17:25 -0400, William Case wrote:
> > Hi Patrick;
> > 
> > On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 16:26 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 15:02 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > [snip]
[snip]
> 
> Bill, we may be going off at a tangent here since I really haven't
> attempted to answer your original question, but the interfaces are
> always going to be there (assuming the drivers are loaded). What changes
> is whether they are marked UP or not. The state of each interface is
> internal to the kernel, all the various commands do is manipulate it or
> report it.
> 
> Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "removed the ifconfig".

On advice in an earlier thread, it was suggested that ifconfig was
interfering and that I had no use for it.  That I should move it aside
so that it would not be found. I moved it to a dir I keep in root for
such things -- /root/MoveAsides.

That action did get NM reworking, but the service called 'network'
remains running apparently.

My problems are all those annoying little gnome issues I listed in my
original post.  All of which seemed to have started when I turned NM off
then on again.

My main objective is to get my networking working properly with no extra
programs or processes hanging around.  I want -- need -- to start poking
around my network setup to learn networking.  I want to make sure that
there is a direct correlation between my poking and any network
breakdowns so I can trace back what I shouldn't have done. 
-- 
Regards Bill;
Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.3
Evo.2.22.3.1, Emacs 22.2.1