fedora-list Digest, Vol 54, Issue 170

Lawrence E. Graves lgraves at risingstarmbc.com
Thu Aug 21 05:12:50 UTC 2008


I am kind of new at this,but to the two people that are struggling with
the installation of Fedora 9, it is simpler to install it straight from
the website.  I've never tried to install it with a disk




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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: arping (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>    2. Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
>       (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>    3. Re: Evolution: my sent folder just disappeared.
>       (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>    4. Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install (Phil Savoie)
>    5. Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install (Frank Cox)
>    6. Re: avahi-daemon issues cont. (Gerhard Magnus)
>    7. wget problem (Paul)
>    8. Re: sudo GUI frontend (David)
>    9. ATI driver on F9 (Patrick Kaiser)
>   10. Re: wget problem (Patrick Kaiser)
>   11. Re: xmodmap map key to right mouse click. (g)
>   12. Re: Linux Outlaws (Armin)
>   13. Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install (g)
>   14. Re: Linux Outlaws (g)
>   15. Re: How to search the Fedora List (Aldo Foot)
>   16. Re: Linux Outlaws (g)
>   17. Re: Linux Outlaws (Aldo Foot)
>   18. Re: wget problem (Paul)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:25:58 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: arping
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1219272958.3519.176.camel at bree.homelinux.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:59 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 23:01 +0930, Tim wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 13:30 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > > Is there any arping available for a FC7 ?
> > > 
> > > I don't have 7 installed on anything, anymore, but 9 has two arping
> > > commands.  One in /sbin/ the other in /usr/sbin/.  Neither of which is
> > > in the search path for ordinary users.  Try looking for yours in there.
> > But only /sbin/arping is used by default. So it is strange that there
> > are two of them.
> 
> One is a symlink to the other.
> 
> poc
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:29:26 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1219273166.3519.179.camel at bree.homelinux.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 18:03 -0400, Phil Savoie wrote:
> > Trying to load F9 on a compaq R3000.  Gets to the resolving
> > dependencies 
> > section then pops out my dvd asking for the first cd.  I pop it back
> > in 
> > and click on ok and then it tells me that it is the incorrect disk
> > and 
> > so now I am in a loop.
> > 
> > I don't have emerald slippers to click three times while I mumble "I 
> > wish you would install", so would anyone have any ideas on this?
> 
> Sounds like you have the wrong ISO image burned to your DVD. Perhaps you
> burned the first CD image by mistake?
> 
> poc
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:31:47 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Evolution: my sent folder just disappeared.
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1219273307.3519.180.camel at bree.homelinux.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:41 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 22:34 +0000, g wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > > 
> > > 
> > > linuxguy wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > I will do this when I get my Sent folder back.   Right now it isn't
> > > > present in EV to do this.
> > > 
> > > if you are adventurous, you can try what i did a few years back with ev.
> > > 
> > > with a file browser, locate your 'sent' folder, open with a text editor.
> > > then manually save to a new file, 'sent00'.
> > > 
> > > open 'sent00', page down about half way into it, back up to start of a
> > > message. then delete messages to end, save as a new file name, 'sent01'.
> > > 
> > > reopen 'sent00', page down to message you started of message you started
> > > you delete from, delete back to start of file, save as 'sent02'.
> > > 
> > > rename original 'sent' file to 'sent.org', open a terminal, or command shell,
> > > touch 'sent' to create a new 'sent'.
> > > 
> > > look at associated files of 'sent', create them for 'sent01' and 'sent02'.
> > > 
> > > reopen ev and you should now have an empty 'sent' plus a new 'sent01' and
> > > 'sent02'.
> > > 
> > > there may be an easier way, but this did work for me.
> > ----
> > I found that emacs gagged on 2Gb files and had to use vi for files of
> > this size but it was painful.
> > 
> > You can use the 'split' command (man split for details).
> > 
> > you could conceivably split the file into 8 pieces and thus only lose 8
> > e-mails.
> 
> I'm pretty sure formail (part of the procmail package) can do this
> safely.
> 
> poc
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:06:56 -0400
> From: Phil Savoie <psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48ACA390.8010900 at rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 18:03 -0400, Phil Savoie wrote:
> >> Trying to load F9 on a compaq R3000.  Gets to the resolving
> >> dependencies 
> >> section then pops out my dvd asking for the first cd.  I pop it back
> >> in 
> >> and click on ok and then it tells me that it is the incorrect disk
> >> and 
> >> so now I am in a loop.
> >>
> >> I don't have emerald slippers to click three times while I mumble "I 
> >> wish you would install", so would anyone have any ideas on this?
> > 
> > Sounds like you have the wrong ISO image burned to your DVD. Perhaps you
> > burned the first CD image by mistake?
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> Not unless the first cd is 3.3gb in size,
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:15:21 -0600
> From: Frank Cox <theatre at sasktel.net>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Cc: Phil Savoie <psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> Message-ID: <20080820171521.6b0dcc35.theatre at sasktel.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:06:56 -0400
> Phil Savoie <psavoie1783 at rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> > Not unless the first cd is 3.3gb in size,
> 
> Are you sure you got an un-corrupted copy of the image that you burned to the
> DVD?
> 
> -- 
> MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:20:15 -0700
> From: Gerhard Magnus <magnus at agora.rdrop.com>
> Subject: Re: avahi-daemon issues cont.
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1219274415.4959.4.camel at PuteB.SMAssociates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:54 -0700, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
> > When avahi-daemon is started during booting, I get this message:
> > 
> > Starting avahi daemon... Timeout reached while waiting for return value.
> > Could not receive return value from daemon process.  FAILED
> > 
> > Then the system comes up normally. According to system-config-services,
> > avahi-daemon is enabled and dead.
> > 
> > Fedora documentation says:
> > 
> > Avahi is an implementation of zeroconf and is useful for detecting
> > devices and services on local network without a DNS server. This is also
> > the same as mDNS. Most users may have this disabled. Please note that in
> > order to use the networked audio functionality of pulseaudio you will
> > need Avahi enabled.
> > 
> > I would like to use the networked audio functionality of pulseaudio --
> > and in the process perhaps come to understand the black hole of
> > pulseaudio itself :)  So any ideas as to how to get avahi-daemon working
> > or at least how to troubleshoot this problem further?
> > 
> > Thanks for the help! --Jerry
> > 
> OK, after thrashing about for awhile I tried something "obvious":
> 
> root at PuteB Wed Aug 20 16:10:25
> [199] /home/magnusg $ /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon restart
> Shutting down Avahi daemon:                                [  OK  ]
> Starting Avahi daemon...                                   [  OK  ]
> 
> which seems to work. But what's going on? Is the system starting
> services in the wrong order? Do the other boxes on the network have to
> be operational first for avahi-daemon to come up during booting?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:22:37 +0100
> From: Paul <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk>
> Subject: wget problem
> To: fedora-list <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1219274557.26684.59.camel at PB3.Linux>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to grab all of the .zip files from www.urbanfonts.com using
> wget.
> 
> If I use flashgot, it will work for the page I'm on, but the output from
> flashgot doesn't tell me which options are used?
> 
> All of the files are in the form of xyz.php?fontname.zip.
> 
> Any ideas on how to get them easier than doing every page with flashgot?
> 
> TTFN
> 
> Paul
> -- 
> Sie knnen mich aufreizen und wirklich hei machen!
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:13:52 -0400
> From: David <dgboles at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: sudo GUI frontend
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
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> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 20 August 2008 12:05:34 Gilboa Davara wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Can anyone please point me to a good sudo GUI front-end? (Password
> >> dialog box).
> >> While I'm using KDE 4.1, I don't mind using a gtk box.
> >>
> >> I tried using kdesu with or w/o the kdesurc - but it doesn't seem to
> >> work.
> >>
> > '/bin/su -' does work, though in some cases you will need to add $u (or is 
> > it %U?).  I like a root konsole profile, so I used it there, with a different 
> > display colour for clarity :-)
> 
> 
> I have my user prompt in bright white and my root prompt in bright red.
> 
> - --
> 
> 
>   David
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:29:07 +0200
> From: Patrick Kaiser <patrick at argonius.de>
> Subject: ATI driver on F9
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <20080820232907.GA11674 at argonius.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi,
> 
> since I installed F9 on my new desktop with an ATI Radeon 3600, I was
> still waiting for the ATI driver update, because of "problems" with the
> newest Xorg version.
> Finaly, today there was a release on ATI site
> (http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html)
> 
> Just tried it out, but there is also the same error. Does anyone knows
> more, when there will be a compatible driver from ATI for the newest
> Xorg version? 
> I do not really want to downgrade my Xorg version. :(
> 
> Greets, Patrick
> 
> -- 
> 
> Patrick Kaiser
> 
> URL: http://argonius.de
> EMail: patrick.kaiser at argonius.de
> RIPE: PK3264-RIPE
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:31:01 +0200
> From: Patrick Kaiser <patrick at argonius.de>
> Subject: Re: wget problem
> To: paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk, For users of Fedora
> 	<fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20080820233101.GB11674 at argonius.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:22:37AM +0100, Paul wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm trying to grab all of the .zip files from www.urbanfonts.com using
> > wget.
> > 
> > If I use flashgot, it will work for the page I'm on, but the output from
> > flashgot doesn't tell me which options are used?
> > 
> > All of the files are in the form of xyz.php?fontname.zip.
> > 
> > Any ideas on how to get them easier than doing every page with flashgot?
> > 
> > TTFN
> > 
> > Paul
> > -- 
> > ???Sie knnen mich aufreizen und wirklich hei machen!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -- 
> > fedora-list mailing list
> > fedora-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> do you have a complete list of the fontnames? Then you can try it in a
> loop?
> 
> Greets
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Patrick Kaiser
> 
> URL: http://argonius.de
> EMail: patrick.kaiser at argonius.de
> RIPE: PK3264-RIPE
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:38:16 +0000
> From: g <geleem at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: xmodmap map key to right mouse click.
> To: korgull at home.nl, For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48ACAAE8.8040203 at bellsouth.net>
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> 
> Marcel Janssen wrote:
> <snip>
> > xmodmap -e "keycode 116 = Pointer_Button3"
> 
> i thought 'button 3' was equivalent to 'center button'
> 
> > After using xev, this key shows "Pointer_Button3" but it doesn't trigger a 
> > right mouse button event.
> > 
> > Anyone having an idea how to make it work ?
> 
> have a look at these:
> 
> /usr/share/X11/xkb/compat/mousekeys
> 
> then give a look at;
> 
> control center > regional & accessibility > keyboard shortcuts > \
>   global shortcuts > miscellaneous > mouse emulation
> 
> control center > peripherals > mouse > mouse navigation
> 
> 
> 
> - --
> tc,hago.
> 
> g
> .
> 
> in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
> 
> learn linux:
> 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
> 'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
> 'HowtoForge'   http://howtoforge.com/
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:43:31 -0300
> From: Armin <feng.shaun at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Linux Outlaws
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200808202043.31712.feng.shaun at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
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> On Wednesday 20 August 2008 19:00:12 Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:46:29 +0000
> >
> > g <geleem at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > you did not mention better part of page;
> > >
> > > http://gizmodo.com/5035456/blue-screen-of-death-strikes-birds-
> nest-during
> > >-opening-ceremonies-torch-lighting
> >
> > Ah, that's almost certainly explained by it being a pirate
> > copy of windows without the Microsoft Genuine Advantage :-).
> hmmm how about me getting 2 of those in one day with vista?  and, 
> well, it came on my comp, so it should be genuine! :)
> 
> -- 
> Armin
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:46:14 +0000
> From: g <geleem at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48ACACC6.90400 at bellsouth.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> 
> Phil Savoie wrote:
> <snip>
> > Not unless the first cd is 3.3gb in size,
> 
> when did you pull it?
> did you run 'sha1sum'?
> did you run media check?
> 
> 
> - --
> tc,hago.
> 
> g
> .
> 
> in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
> 
> learn linux:
> 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
> 'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
> 'HowtoForge'   http://howtoforge.com/
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:48:11 +0000
> From: g <geleem at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: Linux Outlaws
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48ACAD3B.6050102 at bellsouth.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> 
> Armin wrote:
> <snip>
> > hmmm how about me getting 2 of those in one day with vista?  and, 
> > well, it came on my comp, so it should be genuine! :)
> 
> i bet that is what chinese are saying about now.
> 
> 
> - --
> tc,hago.
> 
> g
> .
> 
> in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
> 
> learn linux:
> 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
> 'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
> 'HowtoForge'   http://howtoforge.com/
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:50:55 -0700
> From: "Aldo Foot" <lunixer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: How to search the Fedora List
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<3d22fc520808201650sa59ec2diab81f3f367a077ac at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 17:43 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Aaron Konstam <akonstam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> > Searching the Fedora List came up in another thread. I thought this
> >> > important enough information to have a thread of its own. See web link
> >> > below:
> >> > http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2
> >>
> >> The link is useful.
> >> But I believe it would be an improvement to the Fedora archives to add
> >> a search box.
> >> I'd be easier to find info. I know I can use Fedora's "Find", but how come
> >> this very active list does not have a better search mechanism; why resort
> >> to goggle? not that there's anything wrong with it.
> >
> > Speculating here, but it could be because the lists are managed with
> > Mailman. If you look around, very few MM lists have search boxes,
> > basically because it requires hackery to set up (MM doesn't come with
> > any search funcionality). Even the mailman-users list itself doesn't
> > have its own search function! (See
> > http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030520)
> >
> > poc
> >
> 
> Fair enough. The link you provided answered the 'why' of my question.
> Something good came ouf of the discussion for me so far: adding Markmail
> to my search bar.
> 
> ~af
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:52:56 +0000
> From: g <geleem at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: Linux Outlaws
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48ACAE58.2080304 at bellsouth.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
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> g wrote:
> <snip>
> > i bet that is what chinese are saying about now.
> 
> thinking about opening show, i bet last torch runner is glad control system
> did not have a 'blue screen'.
> 
> then again, that one may have been a linux system.
> 
> 
> 
> - --
> tc,hago.
> 
> g
> .
> 
> in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
> 
> learn linux:
> 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
> 'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
> 'HowtoForge'   http://howtoforge.com/
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:55:40 -0700
> From: "Aldo Foot" <lunixer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Linux Outlaws
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
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> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:07 PM, g <geleem at bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > Tom Horsley wrote:
> > <snip>
> >> Ah, that's almost certainly explained by it being a pirate
> >> copy of windows without the Microsoft Genuine Advantage :-).
> >
> > what? you think the chinese would use illegal copies?
> >
> 
> Nahhhh! why when you can buy a $500 piece of software for $99?
> It's still paid for, right?
> 
> ~af
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:42:33 +0100
> From: Paul <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: wget problem
> To: fedora-list <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1219275753.26684.62.camel at PB3.Linux>
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> Hi,
> 
> > do you have a complete list of the fontnames? Then you can try it in a
> > loop?
> 
> 'fraid not - the names are stored somewhere on the site and added as a
> $POST (by the look of it) when you click on the link...
> 
> TTFN
> 
> Paul




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