non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?

Michael J Gruber michaeljgruber+gmane at fastmail.fm
Thu Aug 21 12:45:27 UTC 2008


Bjoern Tore Sund venit, vidit, dixit 21.08.2008 11:04:
> It has now been a full week since the first announcement that Fedora had 
> "infrastructure problems" and to stop updating systems.  Since then there 
> has been two updates to the announcement, none of which have modified the 
> "don't update" advice and noen of which has been specific as to the exact 
> nature of the problems.  At one point we received a list of servers, but 
> not services, which were back up and running.
> 
> The University of Bergen has 500 linux clients running Fedora.  We 
> average one reinstall/fresh install per day, often doing quite a lot 
> more. Installs and reinstalls has had to stop completely, nightly updates 
> have stopped, and until the nature of the problem is revealed we don't 
> even know for certain whether it is safe for our IT staff to type admin 
> passwords to our (RHEL-based, for the most part) servers from these work 
> stations.
> 
> Sometimes unfortunate events happen beyond anyone's control.  We 
> understand this as well as anyone.  We trust the assurances that the 
> infrastructure team is working hard on resolving the matter and are 
> greatful to them for the job they do.  So far nothing that has happened 
> with this issue has reflected poorly on them.
> 
> Sadly, the same cannot be said about the Management of the Fedora 
> project.  Their choice of complete non-disclosure is enough to eradicate 
> any and all confidence that Fedora is a trustworthy platform for Linux 
> installations.  What information they have released has been deliberately 
> vague and, frankly, useless.  For a day or two to secure things this may 
> be a workable strategy.  For a full week, not giving the community 
> participants any chance whatsoever to protect themselves from threats 
> indicated but not specified?  This is poor management and poor judgement 
> and reflects very badly not only on the Fedora project but on Fedora's 
> RedHat sponsor as well.  The issue is more than serious enough and has 
> gone on for more than long enough that someone higher up the scale should 
> have stepped in a long time ago and made sure that all relevant info was 
> released to the community.
> 
> We strongly encourage both the Fedora management and RedHat as a Fedora 
> sponsor to immediately release any and all information relating to the 
> current infrastructure problems.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -BT, linux client architect, University of Bergen

Well spoken.

I would like to add that several actions have further decreased my
confidence in the decision process:

- A website was put up with a number of new ssh fingerprints we are
supposed to trust.
- We were asked by fedoraproject (via e-mail) to reset our passwords and
reupload keys, even with a 14 days deadline.

If there is an issue severe enough which warrants stopping updates
(which indicates that rpm signing keys have been compromised) why should
we trust those fingerprints and servers?

Michael




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