kernel update warning
Ed.Greshko at greshko.com
Tue Feb 26 04:39:14 UTC 2008
Kam Leo wrote:
> 2008/2/25 Mikkel L. Ellertson <mikkel at infinity-ltd.com>:
>> Valent Turkovic wrote:
>> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Kam Leo <kam.leo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You are nit-picking. Most users want kernel security updates. Those
>> >> who have special requirements, e.g. only one particular version works
>> >> with their setup, will disable updating the kernel.
>> > There are users who aren't aware that kernel updates can stop their
>> > vmware, vitualbox and other apps that use custom compiled kernel
>> > modules... I know that you can argue that users should know that
>> > breaks and what doesn't break their apps, but still a finer grained
>> > updates would be nice.
>> > I also think that OpenSuse has some think like this "install only
>> > updates that don't require a restart" (I don't use OpenSuse regulary
>> > so I can't be absolute sure) and Mint Linux has even updates grained
>> > with numbers 1-5, 5 being updates that are potentially dangerous to
>> > break some functionality you have now (like kernels and graphics
>> > drivers). So you can apply only updates with 3 and lower number and
>> > only when you choose do the other "more dangerous" updates.
>> > Do you see this as a nonsense or something that fedora would benefit from?
>> Well, unless you change things, you are presented with a list of the
>> packages that will be installed, removed, and updated. I guess if
>> you blindly accept the list, you could run into problems. You also
>> have the option of telling Yum not to consider packages for update.
>> In any case, if the new kernel breaks things, you always have the
>> current running kernel to fall back on. So you can try the new
>> kernel if you want, and if it breaks things for you, go back to the
>> old one.
> With Fedora you have another kernel to fall back on. For openSUSE the
> old/running kernel is removed and only the new kernel package remains.
> If things don't work after rebooting you need to boot using safe mode
> settings; and, if that fails, dig out the install/rescue CD/DVD.
> Perhaps that's why openSUSE issues fewer kernel updates than Fedora.
FWIW, I downloaded openSUSE just to give it a whirl. It has a very nice
install process with nice screens and is fairly easy to follow. By default
it creates partitions for / and /home as well as swap and does not use LVM.
As the install completes it offers to run online updates.
Too bad that after all of that it left the / partition 100% full and there
was no easy way to increase the size of /. With LVM it would have been a
snap. Oh well, I suppose all distros have their warts. Will have to try
installing again sometime. Still would like to experience their kernel
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