Java Solution
Antonio Olivares
olivares14031 at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 4 00:02:34 UTC 2008
--- Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 15:26 -0800, Antonio Olivares
> wrote:
> > --- Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Karl Larsen wrote:
> > >
> > > >>> 2. Next the small wimpy java 1.51 which is
> of no
> > > use to a serious
> > > >>> java user should not be made available to
> the
> > > user.Instead there
> > > >>> should be dummy /usr/java/default/bin/java
> file
> > > which will print out
> > > >>> "Java not installed" if you press java in a
> > > Terminal. There needs to
> > > >>> be a link between /etc/alternatives/java to
> > > /usr/java/default/bin/java.
> > > >>
> > > >> Most "Serious java users" ie corporations are
> > > using either 1.4 (as we
> > > >> are at work) or 1.5, so stop speaking of
> > > something you know nothing
> > > >> about. Hardly anyone is using 1.6
> commercially
> > > yet. And they're the
> > > >> people who are "serious users", not people
> trying
> > > to run applets in
> > > >> their browsers...
> > > >>
> > > > Why lie about what I KNOW? I tried to
> install
> > > jedit with the 1.5 on
> > > > F8 and it just spit out error messages. Then I
> bit
> > > the bullet and
> > > > installed what Sun Inc said is right and jedit
> > > works SUPER.
> > > >
> > > > That is fact not you GUESS.
> > >
> > > You are comparing 1.5 apples to 1.6 oranges.
> The
> > > 1.5 you tried was not
> > > Sun java, and jedit probably works just fine
> with
> > > Sun Java 1.5 as well
> > > as the 1.6 you installed.
> > >
> > Know Les, 1.5 apples (one and a half apples)
> > 1.6 oranges (one and six tenths of oranges)
> > What do apples and oranges have to do with java?
> >
> > Jun from Sun cannot even be compatible with
> itself.
> > See article below. Fedora is working with Sun on
> > these and other issues. Please be patient :).
> ----
> the 1.5 that Karl (and thus Les by extension) was
> the gcj version that
> is bundled by Fedora and it's cloudy if not
> completely disconnected from
> the Sun 1.5.x releases and obviously the Sun 1.6
> releases. That's what
> Les meant by Apples and Oranges (GCJ Java and Sun
> Java)
>
> The fact remains that Karl is one confused puppy and
> Les stretches to
> make a point that Karl's confusion represents the
> greater confusion as a
> whole which is absurd because Karl represents
> wrongfulness and confusion
> across the board, not just wrt java
>
> I am quite certain that 5 days ago, I suggested that
> Les be patient but
> that hasn't stopped him from trying to score
> ethereal points, and most
> ashamedly, using Karl as proof of how problematic
> the situation is.
>
> Craig
>
> --
Craig,
I am following some links on the java thread(s) and
Nigel's Jigsaw page does not work, there official
sun's java is needed :(
However, using sun's TestJava VM, I get to see the
following:
Test JavaVM
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
You are using a version of the JRE that is not
designed
for general consumer use. You may want to update your
JRE.
Your Java configuration is:
Vendor: Sun Microsystems InC.
Version: 1.7.0
Operating System: Linux
Applet works with IcedTea :)
Euclid's Elements Geometry Applet:
http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elements/usingApplet.html
Applet works with IcedTea :)
David Eck's xFunctions Applet:
http://math.hws.edu/xFunctions/
I am sure I can find others, but two out of three is
better than nothing :). Before, if one wanted JRE/JDK
we had to get java directly from Sun or Jpackage.
Now, it is a matter of time and it will get there :)
Regards,
Antonio
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