OT: unathorized network user.

Bazooka Joe fastfish at gmail.com
Thu Jan 24 21:15:07 UTC 2008

ahh, all true. But if we all ran open wireless networks then the cops
would know that this could be an open network and would handle it
differently.  Right now they assume one ip one person because people
like you keep it that way.

On Jan 24, 2008 1:07 PM, Jacques B. <jjrboucher at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2008 3:02 PM, Bazooka Joe <fastfish at gmail.com> wrote:
> > All this talk of locking networks down is odd for an open source
> > community.  (Business networks are different)
> >
> > I run dd-wrt running nocat auth w/ 5 wds nodes placed around the
> > block. At any given time i have a half dozen people who I don't know
> > doing I don't know what on my network.
> >
> > I don't block p2p, smtp .... anything.  I even have my printer on the
> > network w/ instructions on how to print to it.
> >
> > Am I personally at risk? Yes. But I think it is a small price to pay
> > to cultivate an open community where information isn't kept from
> > others.
> >
> > -bazooka
> Scenario #1
> I connect via your wireless AP and download child porn.  The IP
> captured resolves back to your ISP, and ultimately to you.  The police
> show up at your door, arrest you, and seize your equipment to conduct
> a forensic analysis of it.  You get labeled as a pedophile pending
> this being cleared up.  Your equipment is gone for at least 6-12 mths
> (minimum backlog for many forensic units).  At the end of the day no
> evidence is found on your system so no charge is pursued.
> Scenario #2
> I connect via your wireless AP and use it to send out spam.  Your ISP
> cuts off your service for violation of terms of service.  You tell
> them it wasn't you, you run an open wireless AP.  They discontinue
> your service for breach of terms of service (sharing your connection).
> Scenario #3
> I connect via your wireless AP and send a threatening email to
> someone.  The police come knocking at your door (same as scenario 1).
> Scenario #4
> I connect via your wireless AP and launch a denial of service attack
> against the Department of Defense.  Police arrive at your door (same
> as scenario 1).
> Scenario #5
> I connect via your wireless AP and lure a child.  Police show up at
> your door (same as scenario 1).
> I'm sure people can come up with all kinds of other nasty scenarios.
> Running an open access point is a very, very bad idea for many reasons.
> Jacques B.
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