Dislin breaks 37 libraries on Fedora 8
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
Sun Mar 23 16:45:37 UTC 2008
Steve Underwood wrote:
>>>>
>>> Installing lesstif is a waste of time. Its a useless piece of junk,
>>> and people like RedHat and other distribution vendors are to blame.
>>> It was moving alone nicely until they decided OpenMotif was good. By
>>> the time they decided it was bad people had given up working on
>>> lesstif. Maybe it was all a big plot to kill off the motif world
>>> completely.
>>
>> Motif had plenty of time to make itself available before anyone tried
>> to clone it. You don't need to blame anyone else for killing it off.
>>
>> > Whatever the
>>> cause, it now means using Grace, Nedit and a few other favourites is
>>> a right PITA with Fedora.
>>
>> Yes, if Motif had been open, or lesstif had worked from the start, a
>> lot of things could be about a decade ahead of where they are now...
>>
>
> Well, that seems like a totally meaningless response, lacking any
> connection with history.
Do you have a timeline for the events? I thought that for many years
after the CDE standardization work and the Motif implementation of it
the code was restricted - to the point that lesstif was unable to
legally duplicate its functionality and alternatives were written from
scratch.
> OpenMotif was made open.
But not by any of the open source definitions of the word.
> The distros, like RedHat went for it and
> dropped support for lesstif, killing its development.
How many years of development did it have before that without being
completed? I think it was dead long before RedHat had any affect on it.
> Later, they
> decided OpenMotif wasn't open enough after all - seems like a case of a
> lack of due diligence - but by this time lesstif had withered and died.
Even before...
> Now they have put a totally useless lesstif back into their distros, and
> carry on as if nothing is wrong. The only snag is nothing requiring a
> motif environment actually works properly.
And they never did - which is why there are only a few packages that
require it. Unfortunately they are the ones that cared about following
standards at the time...
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Les Mikesell
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