wireless WPA at boot time

max maximilianbianco at gmail.com
Wed May 21 02:39:03 UTC 2008


Harald Hoyer wrote:
> Andrea wrote:
>> max bianco wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Andrea <mariofutire at googlemail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will reimplement exactly what I did in Fedora 7, but it strikes me 
>>>> that
>>>> nobody cares about that and the big thing is the desktop integration 
>>>> in a
>>>> Windows-like manner.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone has their own priorities.
>>
>> I wonder how Fedora can be used in a server-environment? But I guess 
>> there the network is wired (or wireless WEP :-)
There was a thread about various people's experiences with Fedora as a 
server. Removing the cruft left me with the  idea that Fedora is very 
usable as a server provided one knows what one is doing. However with a 
total lifespan of roughly 13 months, a fedora release tends to be high 
maintanence as far as server platform's go and of course being on the 
cutting edge has its price in terms of stability on occasion. So Redhat 
supported if your new to the game or CentOS if your reasonably 
experienced. Fedora as a server if linux is an exercise in 
effortlessness for you or your really lucky ; )

>> This idea of a user-mapped hardware devices is very much Windows-like.
>>
>> How can I connect more than 1 user to the same machine if each user 
>> has its own network settings?
>> I don't even need to be root to bring up the interface! That is the 
>> opposite of what Linux has been in the last 10 years.
>>
Personally I think Windows is one long nightmare from start to finish. I 
deal with mostly home users of Windows, which means XP Home and now 
Vista. I'd much rather deal with Fedora "instability" ,as some put it, 
all day long and twice on Sunday than deal with some closed off piece of 
crap, where the best and most oft used remedy to a problem is to just 
wipe and reinstall. Would you buy a car that you couldn't fix? with an 
engine that needs a rebuild every time you change the spark plugs? As 
for the networking, from what i have seen the difficulty in turning 
hardware on and off has always been  that it requires elevated 
privileges to talk to the hardware. I think we are moving towards 
user-mapped interfaces but it will be like confining people in chroots, 
if done properly they will feel like admins in their domains but never 
have control over the actual hardware just their virtual piece of it or 
something like that....i have much to learn but i have access to the 
tools so I cannot whine about that at least : )
>> But if this this is the price to pay to see more people using Linux, I 
>> guess I am ready to pay it (for the moment!)

On a lighter note someone walked in today and thanked me for the free 
ubuntu cd I gave them a couple of months back. I had completely 
forgotten about it, and I quote "My kid loves it".
>>
>> Anyway, I might even try to contribute to /etc/init.d/network to 
>> improve the situation!
>> As soon as I find who/where is developed.

That's what it's all about. Linux doesn't always work they way we would 
like but with access to the source and a mailing list we can make it do 
anything. Puts a whole new spin on "shady tree mechanic".



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