Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

[psmith]

David wrote:
> On 4/22/2009 3:33 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
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>> 2009/4/22 David <dgboles at comcast.net>:
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>>> On 4/22/2009 2:13 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
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>>>> 2009/4/22 David <dgboles at comcast.net>:
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>>>>> As I understand the Live-CD installs to the primary (boot) disk. That would
>>>>> be sda. It will have a / in sda1 and a swap in sda6. It will be LVM.
>>>>>           
>
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>>>> All this talk about live CDs got me thinking. If someone wants to get
>>>> something not available on the DVD (e.g. XFCE) and have their custom
>>>> setup on the local disk, the only way to upgrade is over the network
>>>> using preupgrade? Isn't that rather restrictive, specially since a lot
>>>> of the users have dual boot machines?
>>>> What would be the options if I don't have a reliable high speed
>>>> Internet connection? I am asking this as I wanted to get rid of Gnome
>>>> completely and have XFCE instead when I upgrade to F11. But going by
>>>> this, that seems unattainable. Am I missing something here?
>>>>         
>
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>>> There were two, official, Fedora 10 Live-CDs released. One that was GNOME
>>> and another one that was KDE. There are some people here that made several
>>> different, they are called 'spins', of Fedora 10. And one of the Live-CDs
>>> was XFCE, IIRC, but it was only available with Bittorent. Again. IIRC.
>>>       
>
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>>> If you had one of those official CDs, KDE or GNOME, they have to be
>>> downloaded by the way, you could install XKCE and use it. It too would have
>>> to be downloaded but the software installer/updater could get that for you.
>>>       
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>>> XFCE is reasonably small. I just looked and it would be about 34 megs for
>>> what looks like the basic desktop with everything needed to work.
>>>       
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>> Thanks for the thought, but I'm aware of the XFCE Live CDs. My
>> question is since live CDs don't offer the option to choose the kind
>> of install, not even the option to choose the partition on the disk,
>> upgrading to a clean XFCE desktop is not possible without loosing my
>> current partitioning scheme. Is my understanding correct here?
>>     
>
>
> With a Lived-CD. Yes. I said before that a Live-CD does not really install
> in the common way thought of. It wipes the drive and writes itself to the
> harddrive. Exactly as it is when it was made. Somewhat like burning an ISO
> to a CD/DVD. What it is is what you get.
>
> A update would take either the 3.4 G DVD or the set of 6 CDs.
>
> I don't know, it's none of my business, where you live but if Internet
> connection is your problem this will be available to buy after it is
> released. One place is Cheapbytes. I have used them in the past and they are
> reliable and the prices are inexpensive.
>
> http://cheapbytes.com/
>
> For example:
>
> Fedora 10 x86 install DVD is $5.99 + shipping
> Fedora 10 x86 install CD set(6) is 8.99 + shipping
>
> It has been a while but what I received was a quality disk(s) with a
> professional looking label 'made' to the disk, not a 'stick-on' label, with
> a window sleeve.
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you are wrong in your suppositions of the live install procedure as it 
does not wipe the disc and install itself on the full hard drive, well 
not unless you tell it too ;)

phil