When will totem play Apple.com/trailers again?

[Andre Costa]

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 22:00, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 21:01 -0200, Andre Costa wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 19:59, Patrick O'Callaghan
> > <pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 12:49 -0700, john wendel wrote:
> >         > On 10/24/2009 09:44 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >         > > On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 09:41 -0700, john wendel wrote:
> >         > >>> I find it interesting that the Apple TV ads do play on
> >         F11, which is
> >         > >> an
> >         > >>> admission that QT is a niche format.
> >         > >>>
> >         > >>> poc
> >         > >>>
> >         > >>
> >         > >> I just installed gecko-mediaplayer (F11) and it plays the
> >         trailers at
> >         > >> apple.com just fine.
> >         > >
> >         > > If you mean the TV ads, then that's what I said. If you
> >         mean the other
> >         > > stuff, e.g. http://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#small
> >         then no, and I
> >         > > do have gecko-mediaplayer installed.
> >         > >
> >         > > poc
> >         > >
> >         >
> >         > No, I mean the trailers at www.apple.com/trailers. I just
> >         player the HD
> >         > version of the trailer for "Red Cliff". Worked perfectly. I
> >         also tried
> >         > your imac url. It also played (but it was too boring to
> >         watch more that
> >         > 2 minutes of the 7:09).
> >
> >
> >         The movie trailers do work. The Apple promo stuff doesn't
> >         (except for
> >         the TV ads as I said).
> >
> >         > Do you have the full mplayer codec pack installed?
> >
> >
> >         I believe so, but since it's not an RPM I'd have to check the
> >         files one
> >         by one. The latest codecs tarball on the Mplayer site is a
> >         couple of
> >         years old so I doubt that's the problem.
> >
> > AFAIK you only need to have all the gstreamer-plugins-* packages (and,
> > of course, their dependencies). Here's what I have:
> >
> >
> > ~ rpm -qa | grep gstreamer-plugins
> > gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.13-7.fc11.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.12-2.fc11.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64
> >
> >
> > (BTW I had to install some of them -- the "ugly" package IIRC -- by
> > hand, dependencies were not being pulled automatically)
>
> $ rpm -qa \*gstreamer-plugins\*
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.13-7.fc11.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.12-2.fc11.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64
>
> Looks identical.
>
> > I just replaced totem-mozplugin with gecko-mediaplayer, and trailers
> > are playing just fine again.
>
> I had both of them for some reason. Once I removed totem-mozplugin and
> restarted FF, the Apple stuff worked.


Most likely this was the problem: probably totem-mozplugin was being picked
instead of gecko-mediaplayer.


> > This is good because there's a way out after all, but on the other
> > hand this is bad for totem (and Fedora) since it means that default
> > installations will fail to play the trailers (question: will this be
> > the case for F12 as well?), and on the user's eyes it will be one of
> > those cases where Fedora is "quite not there yet".
> >
> >
> > I just did some quick searching on Fedora bugzilla to see if this has
> > already been filed as a totem or totem-mozplugin bug, but did not find
> > anything. Does anyone know if it's already there? If it's not,
> > developers have all the reasons not to have addressed it yet... :-(
>
> Default installations are never going to have the non-free codecs in any
> case. The user will always have to install them for himself.


You're right. What I meant is that, even if you install the codecs (which
are automatically suggested if you try to watch a trailer), it won't work
until you replace the default media player plugin for another one. That's
one step further, it's not intuitive and shouldn't be necessary IMHO.

Regards,

Andre
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