KDE clock settings

Bill Davidsen davidsen at tmr.com
Fri Sep 11 12:57:12 UTC 2009


Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> 2009/9/2 Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko at greshko.com>:
>> Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>>> 2009/9/2 Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko at greshko.com>:
>>>
>>>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 20:36 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, when you installed Fedora, did you carefully uncheck that little
>>>>>>> box that says "System Clock uses UTC"? Windows does not really
>>>>>>> understand UTC or handle it very well. The solution is to go to the
>>>>>>> System --> Administration --> Date and Time application, click the
>>>>>>> Time Zone
>>>>>>> tab, uncheck the Clock Uses UTC box, click OK, reboot the machine,
>>>>>>> go into your BIOS and set the hardware clock correctly if need be. That
>>>>>>> should fix things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone know how to accomplish this under KDE? The "Clock uses UTC" box
>>>>>> doesn't seem to exist in the KDE universe (under System Settings->Date
>>>>>> and Time.)
>>>>>>
>>>>> The little box is in the install dialog.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> So, is your solution that a reinstall should be done to fix this
>>>> problem?  :-)
>>>>
>>> Setting "System Clock uses UTC" converts to this in /etc/sysconfig/clock:
>>>
>>> UTC=true
>>>
>>> So the answer is edit /etc/sysconfig/clock as root, change that to
>>> false, reboot and get on with the rest of your life.
>>>
>>>
>> Of course....if you read the thread you'd see that I'd already provided
>> a solution...  :-)
> 
> Heck - if only I had time for that! Since changing jobs, I only get a
> chance to read the odd email and I admittedly didn't check the whole
> history on this.
> 
That's obvious.

>> I'm not certain who you are directing the "get on with the rest of your
>> life" comment....but don't you think suggesting that the solution lies
>> within the installation dialog just a tag bit of overkill?
> 
> Err, not directed at anyone in particular and no offence intended!
> 
> I didn't see who suggested you could only do it in the installation
> dialog, but they are wrong and that is definitely overkill.
> 
No one ever said any such thing, he said he couldn't find the "system clock uses 
UTC" check box mentioned by Bob Cochran. I told him it was in the install 
process. Neither Bob nor I ever said that was the only place to set it.

You quoted this dialog, and then said we were wrong without ever reading what we 
said.

>> As for the UTC=true...I have my doubts about that.  While I didn't do
>> any extensive research, I found that checking the UTC box in the Gnome
>> clock utility did *not* alter that file to include that phrase...at
>> least not with my time zone....but maybe that is due to my time zone not
>> having DST.
> 
> I don't have UTC=*  it set on my Fedora laptop, but I see it all the
> time at Work on RHEL machines. Frequently Tech's update the timezone
> by linking a new one from /etc/localtime, but don't update
> /etc/sysconfig/clock so their changes get overwritten on the next
> update of tzdata - I'm very familiar with fixing that and I'm sure
> that setting the correct value of TIMEZONE and UTC in this file as
> well as copying the right tzdata file to /etc/localtime is enough to
> convince a server of what timezone it resides in.
> 
> But then I live in the right timezone, so when I'm not using DST, I am
> in UTC ;o)
> 
>> The bottom line is that the obvious utility which I looked at, as other
>> people did too, did not have a check box for that setting and a bugzilla
>> has been written.
> 
> Fair enough - as mentioned, I didn't have time to read the whole thread!
> 
> Have a good evening,
> 
> Sam
> 


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Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
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