KDE clock settings

Bill Davidsen davidsen at tmr.com
Fri Sep 11 12:57:12 UTC 2009

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> 2009/9/2 Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko at greshko.com>:
>> Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>>> 2009/9/2 Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko at greshko.com>:
>>>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>>>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 20:36 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>>>>>>> So, when you installed Fedora, did you carefully uncheck that little
>>>>>>> box that says "System Clock uses UTC"? Windows does not really
>>>>>>> understand UTC or handle it very well. The solution is to go to the
>>>>>>> System --> Administration --> Date and Time application, click the
>>>>>>> Time Zone
>>>>>>> tab, uncheck the Clock Uses UTC box, click OK, reboot the machine,
>>>>>>> go into your BIOS and set the hardware clock correctly if need be. That
>>>>>>> should fix things.
>>>>>> Anyone know how to accomplish this under KDE? The "Clock uses UTC" box
>>>>>> doesn't seem to exist in the KDE universe (under System Settings->Date
>>>>>> and Time.)
>>>>> The little box is in the install dialog.
>>>> So, is your solution that a reinstall should be done to fix this
>>>> problem?  :-)
>>> Setting "System Clock uses UTC" converts to this in /etc/sysconfig/clock:
>>> UTC=true
>>> So the answer is edit /etc/sysconfig/clock as root, change that to
>>> false, reboot and get on with the rest of your life.
>> Of course....if you read the thread you'd see that I'd already provided
>> a solution...  :-)
> Heck - if only I had time for that! Since changing jobs, I only get a
> chance to read the odd email and I admittedly didn't check the whole
> history on this.
That's obvious.

>> I'm not certain who you are directing the "get on with the rest of your
>> life" comment....but don't you think suggesting that the solution lies
>> within the installation dialog just a tag bit of overkill?
> Err, not directed at anyone in particular and no offence intended!
> I didn't see who suggested you could only do it in the installation
> dialog, but they are wrong and that is definitely overkill.
No one ever said any such thing, he said he couldn't find the "system clock uses 
UTC" check box mentioned by Bob Cochran. I told him it was in the install 
process. Neither Bob nor I ever said that was the only place to set it.

You quoted this dialog, and then said we were wrong without ever reading what we 

>> As for the UTC=true...I have my doubts about that.  While I didn't do
>> any extensive research, I found that checking the UTC box in the Gnome
>> clock utility did *not* alter that file to include that phrase...at
>> least not with my time zone....but maybe that is due to my time zone not
>> having DST.
> I don't have UTC=*  it set on my Fedora laptop, but I see it all the
> time at Work on RHEL machines. Frequently Tech's update the timezone
> by linking a new one from /etc/localtime, but don't update
> /etc/sysconfig/clock so their changes get overwritten on the next
> update of tzdata - I'm very familiar with fixing that and I'm sure
> that setting the correct value of TIMEZONE and UTC in this file as
> well as copying the right tzdata file to /etc/localtime is enough to
> convince a server of what timezone it resides in.
> But then I live in the right timezone, so when I'm not using DST, I am
> in UTC ;o)
>> The bottom line is that the obvious utility which I looked at, as other
>> people did too, did not have a check box for that setting and a bugzilla
>> has been written.
> Fair enough - as mentioned, I didn't have time to read the whole thread!
> Have a good evening,
> Sam

Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
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