Music Appreciation teaching program ??

Craig White craigwhite at
Sun Sep 20 21:36:21 UTC 2009

On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 05:48 +0930, Tim wrote:
> > seriously, there are all sorts of trained and untrained musicians
> but
> > whether a musician has knowledge or education in classical music is
> > not necessarily important. The Beatles never knew how to read music.
> Just imagine how much better they could have been!  ;-)  Sorry,
> couldn't resist.
I know you were sort of joking here but I also cannot resist because I
seriously doubt whether any classical education would have made them
better and in fact, it might have restricted their thinking. One of the
things about much of the Beatles music that made them unique was the
fact that they did not follow traditional patterns of chord progressions
or melodies. 

I am a decent guitar player and I have had lessons and can read music
but I have found much more talented guitar players that can't tell you
what key they are in. There is a natural talent that some have that goes
way beyond any training. People can train all they wish but no amount of
training can substitute for talent. I wish I had that talent but that's
why I have a day job.
> Yes, there's a lot of talented people without formal training.  But I
> tend to be more impressed by those with it.  And they're certainly
> more
> able to work with other trained musicians, as they know how tell each
> other what needs doing.  "More, um, thingy," doesn't work too well.
you're speaking in generalities here. Someone who is that talented has
no problem playing with others even if they don't know the key. They
know music and they know their instrument. I know a fair number of
musicians and if they are talented, whether they have any classical
training doesn't matter much to playing rock and roll with or without


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