Strange files, slow resopnse, evolution problem with recent updates

[John Austin]

Hi

I have just returned from holiday and updated F11 to latest state
Server Centos 5.3 also updated

There was no problem afaik before the upgrades !!!!

My F11 client uses kdm, xfce, evolution ...
and my home directory is an nfs4 mount from the server

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1. My backup script fails - refusing to copy files of the type

cp: cannot open `/home/ja/.local/share/applications/defaults.list.3PEP0U' for reading: Permission denied

naxos ~ 78# ls -l /home/ja/.local/share/applications/defaults.list.I4ZS0U
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-05-08 03:02 /home/ja/.local/share/applications/defaults.list.I4ZS0U

cp: cannot open `/home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc.lockGuIM8a.tmp' for reading: Permission denied

naxos ~ 87# ls -l /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc.lockGuIM8a.tmp
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-02-01 03:34 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc.lockGuIM8a.tmp

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With zero length and 000 permissions
naxos ~ 86# find . -type f -size 0 -perm 000 |grep  ".kde/share/config/*" |wc
  11336   11336  532781

Even more with just zero length
naxos ~ 84# find . -type f -size 0 |grep  ".kde/share/config/*" |wc
  23783   23783 1117791

The vast majority of the files are associated with kde !
naxos ~ 5# ja_null_files_ls |wc -l
43087
naxos ~ 6# ja_null_files_ls |grep .kde |wc -l
43008

There are a lot of these files in my home directory! 240,000 at one stage !!!!
They take a very long time to delete

The dates are strange some being in years 1970 and some 2038

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Update
My nfs4 mounted home directory is saved on a SSD disk
with noatime set
Removing the noatime seems to get rid of the 2038 dated file problem
other problems described here are still present
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Why have these files appeared or have they always been there
If so why does my simple cp now treat them differently


2. Evolution is now having great difficulty in reading/saving/deleting/filtering files
	Is this to do with problem 1 ?
	Also - when creating new message in evo a box pops up with
Could not save to autosave file "".
Error saving to autosave because "Could not open autosave file".

3. Thunar has great difficulty in showing thumbnails
and deselects thumbnails when changing directory
pcmanfm seems to work OK

Is it a kde, nfs ... problem ?

Any suggestions welcome

John

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PS
I have 4 little scripts to investigate with

For 1970 dated files 
naxos ~ 1# cat bin/ja_null_files_ls
#!/bin/bash
find $HOME -type f -size 0  -mtime +10000 -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l
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For 2038 dated files
naxos ~ 2# cat bin/ja_null_files_ls_future
#!/bin/bash
find $HOME -type f -size 0  -newermt "2030-02-01"  -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l
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Second pair of scripts have rm instead of ls -l
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naxos ~ 9# ja_null_files_ls |less
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-13 14:24 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-3Q3D0U
---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-11 04:20 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-ATZC0U
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-18 16:02 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-DFFE0U
---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-19 08:56 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-EKHJ0U
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-12 14:56 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-GPAN0U
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-17 22:57 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-GUYR0U
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-11 21:30 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-GWOH0U
---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-20 01:59 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-JXSW0U
---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-15 01:59 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-OAMW0U
---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-14 07:59 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-QAJS0U
---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-17 05:51 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-RTTF0U
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-16 12:45 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-S9ZU0U
---S--srw- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-04-15 19:31 /home/ja/.evolution/.evolution-composer.autosave-ZYQT0U
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-14 17:26 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc06fevc.new
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-14 22:22 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0A5kOa.new
---------- 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-18 12:39 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0EZsJa.new
--w-rw---x 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-14 22:15 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0I2gOa.new
-r--rwx-wx 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-18 14:51 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0Ii9Yb.new
---xrwx-wx 1 ja sysadmin 0 1970-01-13 17:19 /home/ja/.kde/share/config/kconf_updaterc0JJLgc.new
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