F13: services marked as disabled, are shown to be running.

JD jd1008 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 23 03:52:43 UTC 2010

  On 08/22/2010 08:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:33 -0700, JD wrote:
>> On 08/22/2010 07:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 18:39 -0700, JD wrote:
>>>> On 08/22/2010 01:38 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
>>>>> JD,
>>>>> It's possible that system-config-services is not working correctly. As
>>>>> an alternative, use chkconfig to look at the default startup status for
>>>>> each of those services:
>>>>> # chkconfig --list | grep akmods
>>>>> akmods          0:off   1:off   2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:off
>>>> $ chkconfig --list | grep akmods
>>>> akmods             0:off    1:off    2:off    3:off    4:off    5:off
>>>> 6:off
>>>> ditto with the rest:  capi hsqldb isdn jetty lm_sensors racoon sandbox
>>>> vmware zvbid
>>>> So, I still cannot explain this.
>>>> For example, capi is reported by system-config-services as running,
>>>> BUT:
>>>> $ sudo service capi status
>>>> capi not installed - Connection timed out (110)
>>>> So, how could it be reported as running.
>>>> akmod is also reported as running and ther is not S*akmods in any of
>>>> /etc/rc[0123455].d
>>>> also, hsqldb is disabled, yet it is reported as running,
>>>> same as isdn, jetty, lm_sensors, racoon, sandbox, vmware, zvbid
>>>> In summary, system-config-services cannot be relied on to correctly
>>>> report what services are running or, disabled, or stopped.
>>> A service can be disabled (i.e. not enabled) in a run level, yet have
>>> been started by something else, perhaps inadvertently.  Before declaring
>>> s-c-s to be buggy, it would be important to discover if these things
>>> actually *are* running or not, using ps, and if so what their parent
>>> processes are.
>>> poc
>> Duh!!!
>> Goes without saying!
>> They are not running!
> Why does it go without saying? Nothing in your previous report indicates
> that you had checked the s-c-s version of reality using ps. Without that
> information, how can anyone decide where the problem really is?
> poc
Please, stop the noise!
I am sure there are people who will be tryinf this for themselves
and see that it is the case. There is a problem with system-config-services.
Enough from you.

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