[slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

[inode0]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com> wrote:
> inode0 wrote:
>> But Fedora doesn't bicker about this. Red Hat doesn't mandate this.
>> Fedora as a community makes the decision. So why are we discussing it
>> at all? Having transparent governance and community decision making
>> does not mean bickering about such things.
>
> The problem is communication. With Maemo there was none. I can't say
> much for Moblin as I haven't been involved at all.

We are in the same position here. I haven't followed Moblin either and
haven't said much if anything about the Moblin community. I've been a
long time internet tablet user, both the N770 and N800 and do follow
what is going on in the Maemo community. And I agree communication is
a big part of the problem but I don't see how that will ever change
when the governance that matters is done outside the Maemo community.

>> This sentiment I think everyone shared in the beginning. Give Nokia
>> time to learn its way. But they began with old mistakes (core
>> controlled by them and the community contributing on the edges, sound
>> familiar?) and continue with a governance model that guarantees a
>> dysfunctional community that at each sudden jerk feels used. Hope may
>> spring eternal but eventually people get discouraged.
>
> Yes, they are starting out the "same" but you should really Google or
> read through some recent (as of this month) posts by @nokia folk that
> have posted road maps and such that detail an overhaul of what they want
> to accomplish. I'm holding out hope they follow that plan. You're free
> to think Nokia won't change.

Actually I think Nokia will change. If it doesn't the community it
relies on will eventually unravel. I just worry that the change will
not be good if it comes after the community gives up.

John