Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

Todd Zullinger tmz at pobox.com
Mon Jul 5 19:30:21 UTC 2010

Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> On the sign up page for the list:
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>> near the bottom:
>> users  list run by...
> That's only for the 'users' mailing list. I guess I would have to
> the same for all the mailing lists and gather all the recipients =/

No need for that.  All mailman lists on lists.fedoraproject.org (as
well as most mailman lists in general) have a convenient alias to
reach the list owners/admins.  It is $listname-owner@$domain.  In this
case, it's users-owner at lists.fedoraproject.org.  In fact, that's where
the link at the bottom of the listinfo page sends mail.

For reaching the site admins for a given mailman installation, you
typically use mailman@$domain, e.g. mailman at lists.fedoraproject.org.
The sitewide address is given on the main mailman page, which is also
linked in the footer of the listinfo page.

> At least Chris Tyler already replied on this thread, but sure, I'll
> try to resend the mail to them.

Prior to today the list was set to discard posts from non-members.
This setting was made before any of the current list admins were
present AFAIK.  I believe that sending a rejection is the more
courteous setting, and we have changed this now.

Setting it to hold for moderation all messages is not likely to
happen.  Even with decent spam filtering, more than enough messages
make it through that tending to the moderation queue becomes quite a
laborious task.  I help tend to a number of Fedora lists and I do not
wish to greatly increase the effort needed to do so efficiently.

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