Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora

JD jd1008 at
Thu Jul 15 01:38:14 UTC 2010

  On 07/14/2010 07:02 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Thursday, July 15, 2010 00:03:28 siavash ghiasvand wrote:
>> I'm looking for a LIST of RPM packages which are sufficient to
>> bring up a simple kernel and nothing more.
>> I can erase files from an installed system and create a live disk from
>> them , even I can use something like "BasicLinux" or also compiling
>> anything from source will solve the problem But, I must bring up a PC
>> with minimal Fedora Official RPM packages not anything else.
>> As other friends said, now I'm working on UN-installing packages from
>> an installed system to achieve that minimum set of packages.
> While I think I understand your criteria for a package being "essential" (in
> the sense that the system fails to boot if this package is not present), I am
> still confused. Booting the system is a process that takes several stages. At
> what point exactly do you consider that the system has finished booting?
> Do you want to get into the login screen? Graphical? Text only?
> Are you booting into runlevel 3 or maybe 1 (multiuser vs single user
> environment)?
> Do you need networking/bluetooth/smart-card/other hardware support? Do you
> consider that the boot process is over before or after the initrc scripts have
> run?
> Do you need to run init at all? Kernel runs init automatically *after* it has
> finished "booting itself". Is that good enough?
> Do you consider a successful boot anything that does not produce a kernel
> panic?
> AFAIK, in order to get the kernel up and running, you don't even need to mount
> any filesystems, other than the virtual initramfs thing in memory. Even some
> kernel modules can be stripped. For example, you can boot without
> initializing, say, sound card. Do you need that? Do you need functional USB
> ports? SCSI? Mouse? Anything other than the keyboard and graphics card? You
> can remove quite a big chunk of the kernel itself, while still retaining some
> elementary functionality, and successfully booting the kernel.
> In terms of packages, for a complete barebones boot I would guess you need
> only grub, the kernel, glibc, and their dependencies. But if you want to be
> able to login after that, you will want more (init? bash?). If you want all
> hardware to work, you will want even more (initrc scripts? various deamons?).
> If you want multiuser environment, you need still more packages. Etc. You get
> the picture.
> So maybe it would be a good idea to specify what exactly do you mean by
> "system has booted successfully". That way you will avoid a lot of confusion
> in getting answers, because various people have quite different opinions on
> what they consider a successful boot. Some want to see at the end the
> graphical login screen, which requires X and a whole other bunch of stuff...
> HTH, :-)
> Marko
Well put Marko. I had asked of Siavash Ghiasvand
a clarification of what he means by minimal.
I never saw his stated criteria for minimal.
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