Tim: >> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa. g: > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to. A second hint: Xerox. -- [tim at localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.