Why are 0 karma updates still being released?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Mike Fedyk writes:

> Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma.
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12
> 
> Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable
> without people other than the packager testing it?

Maybe because nobody is aware that something's waiting for some karma out 
there?

I see that openssh was pushed to stable recently. I might've been willing to 
grab it from testing and give it whirl, but I'm not sure how I would've 
known about it. Whatever this errata fixed, it obviously didn't affect me, 
so I was not aware of the open bug, and a pending errata.

It's just a hunch, but here's what I think happens most of the time: someone 
files a bug, the maintainer picks it up, fixes the bug, pushes the package 
to testing.

So, you've really got just the bug reporter who's interested in the errata, 
and is even aware of a package. And most of the time it's an ordinary user 
who is not even aware of the underlying infrastructure. A canned message 
gets appended to the Bugzilla entry, saying something to the effect that a 
package was "pushed" somewhere. The bug reporter may not be aware of the 
fact that there's some kind of a mechanism to rate the pending update. The 
bug reporter is most likely waiting until he gets a popup from Packagekit, 
telling him that an update is ready.

I had someone file a bug against my small, obscure package. It was an 
enhancement. I finally got around to coding it, tarring it up (I'm my own 
upstream), then grabbing it with my maintainer hat, building it, and pushing 
it to testing.

So, how long should I wait for some karma? In the past, I've waited two 
weeks before requesting a push to stable. Is there a policy document 
somewhere that lays down the law, on this?

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