battery botched f11 to f12 upgrade (macppc-ibookG4)

Sam Varshavchik mrsam at
Thu Jun 10 22:32:19 UTC 2010

Joel Rees writes:

> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:08:09 -0400
> Sam Varshavchik <mrsam at> wrote:
>> I've never understood the appeal of preupgrade.
> It "feels" like it knows more about what's going on than the netinstall
> CD, for instance. But that's because a lot of the work is being done by a
> fully functioning system. When you reboot and let the install kernel take
> over, however, it's just as stripped-down as the netinstall CD.

In the past, there have been many occasions where a newly-installed kernel 
would upchuck and die on one of my machines, as a result of a bug in a 
driver for some bit of hardware in it. Hasn't happened in a long time 
(good), but it has happened in the past time. In one memorable stretch, 
three consecutive kernel releases (not just Fedora erratas of the same 
kernel release, but new kernel releases packaged for Fedora) would barf on 
me, before the whatever bug was finally nuked, and I was finally able to 
upgrade to the current kernel.

The nice thing about a DVD install is that I'm booting the same kernel that 
I'm going to install. It's nice to know, in advance, and very quickly, if 
the kernel is going to barf on me.

>> Seems to me it's going to take much longer to have every machine download 
>> the individual packages, separately once for each machine.
> Have you considered setting up a local mirror? Theoretically (haven't
> actually done it myself, mind you), that's what I'd do if I had a lot of

Err… Sucking down "Everything", which is I think what I'll need to do, is a 
bit much for me to swallow.

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