Another funny update?

[Marcel Rieux]

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 15:55:32 -0400,
>   Marcel Rieux <m.z.rieux at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And  RPMfusion provides instructions on how to get Nouveau out of the way
> to
> > do a clean install. Why, as I was explaining to Dennis Gilmore, shouldn't
> > the Nouveau developers provide instructions to do the opposite?
>
> No I don't think so. Fedora is designed to be self consistent. If third
> party packages mess it up, there isn't any way for the Fedora developers to
> know any special magic needed to fix things without having detailed
> knowledge
> of the third party packages. (Other than the standard uninstall the problem
> package or reinstall from scratch, neither of which are good solutions in
> this case.) Whereas RPMFusion is meant to be an add on to Fedora and the
> combination of the two is meant to be self consistent. They need to know
> both systems (though more detail about their stuff). They should be able to
> tell you how to go back from having the nVidia kmod doing graphics to
> nouveau.
>

Ok, I'll take your POV. They should say why the module was 4-5 late... but
they don't.

They must surely be aware that, now that Nouveau offers at least some basic
3D, some users, given the quirks that sometimes happen with kmod, must be
interested to switch back to Nouveau, but they don't provide the info.

As a simple user, I'm not in a position to fight RPMFusion. So, if the
Nouveau developers don't want to provide instructions on how to install
Nouveau when NVIDIA is installed, people like Dennis Gilmore  will find the
hard way what "fight[ing] a tough battle" really means.

Until I got to RPMFusion's site, I had many problems installing the kmod
module. This site had this recipe and the other had this one and nothing
worked. But I could rely on Nouveau meanwhile. Now, Nouveau is disabled and
I won't spend a month searching on the net with possibly the most basic Xorg
driver.

If Nouveau developers want to make their fight even tougher, they have the
right recipe: just don't tell how to revert from NVIDIA to Nouveau. Keep it
secret! Not our business! Let the user have all the fun of searching and
pestering.

Once again, I wonder why Fedora is doing so poorly on the desktop...
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