Clean Installs are Remarkable

[Reindl Harald]

On 23.12.2011 01:04, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>> i made some hundret dist-upgrades since 2006 with yum
>> yes they are sometimes not "start and forget" but it takes
>> me 1-3 days after a fresh-install (many services, customized
>> configs) and so i prepare dist-upgrades on ONE virtual machine
> 
> How long does it take to prepare that first one?
> 
> Preupgrade took me about 44 hours, F14 to F15. Yum upgrade would have
> been about the same, according to my past experiences.

what the hell takes 44 hours?

on mobile-internet maybe
i do not calculate one-time download

>> there are important packages rebuilt from source with removed
>> restart of services due update, newer versions than fedora for
>> many reasons and after the preparing each dist-upgrade on the
>> other servers takes 5-7 minutes while all services are running
>> and 20-30 seconds for the reboot
> 
> But I'm sure you didn't have 3,450 packages in you virtual machines.

no 1,7134 - do not forget the devel-stuff
but who acres on modern ahrwadre and 100Mbit WAN?

> But I do wish the upgrade weren't so much of a chasm to cross every
> six months. 

if you have a problem with the every six months fedora is wrong for
you - but if you like fresh software CentOS is wrong for you

you can not have frehs software and no big upgrades
not now and not in the future

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